I've seen this before probaably 5 yrs ago and totally forgot about it -
thanks for the link.
I doubt it's in NY - this is a Titan I as they stated and I've been in a
closed Atlas in NY and an active Titan II site(just before closure, helped
crate and ship). I hadn't seen one with 3 missiles tied to it either. Much
of it is old school too - the "buddy system" became "No Lone Zone-Two Man
Policy" which became "Ywo Person Policy" during the politically correct
period of the early 90's. The Buddy System used to cover both nuclear surety
and personal safety then as you couldn't screw up the missile or system if
you had someone with you trained to watch - and if you got hurt you were
already with someone to call for help. Matter of fact everyone was under the
Human Reliability Program too - get sick or have a money problem? You come
to us instead of taking care of it yourself.
LOX is an acronym for Liquid OXygen, the oxidizer for the liquid hydrazine
fuel that was stored in the big black tank. Why it wreaked of either kero or
fuel oil is probably like washing a gas tank with kerosene before you weld
or grind on it - it coats remaining vapors/fuels and makes them to heavy for
ignition.
165 person capacity and all of them MALE, including security,
communications, mess, medical, etc. How'd you like to be in that stateside
submarine for a couple months sailor? It still all looks like the Chicago
subway system to me though, even after 20 yrs around all of that.
A shame what people did to it though and none of them left any real graffiti
to lend itself to where the site is at. Looking at the terrain it could be
Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan, the Dakotas, Wyoming,
Montana, etc. There's nothing there to give a clue and during the Kennedy
cold war freakout they put silos and missiles just about anywhere. Hell for
all we know it could be a flat place in Mississippi somewhere.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
> [mailto:owner-classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Jeff Hellige
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 7:20 PM
> To: classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: Arizona trip
>
>
> >If it's the one I'm thinking of it's an old Atlas (pre Titan)
> silo up near
> >Plattsburgh New York. If it is the same one it's since been
> blasted due to
> >the dangerous conditions of both being in it and the possibility
> of cave-in
> >above. It should have been near the town of Saranac.
>
> I actually found the website again! The URL was still in the
> bookmarks on my laptop (which NEVER gets cleaned off). Sometimes I'm
> thankful for being such a packrat and being able to go back and find
> 4 year old emails <g>. Anyway, he's moved the site but it's still
> active at:
>
> http://triggur.org/silo/
>
> He doesn't give any clear indicators as to where it's
> located, but here's the statistics he does list:
>
> Missile type: Titan I
> Missile count: 3
> Missile speed: 18,000 MPH
> Missile burns: 1 ton fuel/sec
> Silo doors: 2x116 tons
> Fuel storage: 26,000 gals/silo LOX
> Active during: 1963-1965
> Feet of tunnel: 2000
> Feet of wire: 3 million
> Miles of re-bar: 2400
> Tons of concrete: 405,000
> Tons of structural steel: 6,900
> yards^3 of dirt displaced: 800,000
> Water tanks: 2x30,000 gallons
> Diesel tanks: 2x67,000 gallons
> Generators: 4x1 megawatt
> Capacity: 150 people/30 days
> Total depth: 165 feet
>
> All in all, I thought it was pretty interesting.
>
> Jeff
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