Are We Not Men? (& Women?) [OT^2] (Was Re: PDP-8/Es available [NOT!]) (fwd)

From: Wirehead Prime <>
Date: Mon Jan 26 00:07:50 1998

I think the following says all that need be said about this debate.
I received it from Mr. Ismail this evening.

Anthony Clifton - Wirehead

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:12:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Sam Ismail <>
To: Wirehead Prime <>
Subject: Re: Are We Not Men? (& Women?) [OT^2] (Was Re: PDP-8/Es available [NOT!])

On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Wirehead Prime wrote:

> My mail server must have been down the day you were put in charge. I,
> for one, would like to hear Mr Whitson's comments on this matter.

Mr. Whitson doesn't have to comment on the matter as he already has, IN
DISCUSSION FOR THIS GROUP. Any drug addled moron can determine from the
FAQ that the last five days of you blowing your wad over yourself is not
what is considered on-topic for a discussion group on CLASSIC COMPUTERS.

> Clearly there is a question of interpretation here and, seeing as how I've
> received no warnings or chastisements directly from Bill or from anyone
> else for that matter, I'll assume
> that your opinion is either that of the minority or differs from his to
> such a degree that it isn't worth the bits wasted in its transmission.

No, its really just that Bill is too busy to police the discussion.
Otherwise, I'm sure he'd be objecting. Your "interpretation" of what
belongs in this discussion must be based on the "This-is-my-life" FAQ,
because nowhere in the FAQ does it say that what you've been discussing in
acceptable. It is my interpretation that anyone who would violate the
rules of the FAQ so blatantly as you have is a total ass.

> I suspect that you would do well to discard your copy of _Roberts Rules of
> Order_ and procure a copy of _When Anger Hurts_. A (wo)man's
> maturity is
> defined not so much by his principles and unwavering rigidity in the face
> of that which offends him as it is by the depth of his patience and his
> tolerance for others in spite of his dissatisfaction with their behavior.

My god, what is your problem? Don't quote any passages from some fucken
self-help book to me. Please. I'd suspect that you'd do much better to
read the ClassicCmp FAQ over and over until it registers with you.

> As I've said, I am not only confident but resolute that the
> aforementioned discussion WAS, indeed, within the parameters set forth
> for the group...IE the discussion of computer collecting, which is driven
> by various motivations which are worthy of discussion in and of
> themselves inasmuch as they reveal why one may wish to collect one sort
> of computer over another or collect computers at all and recognizing that
> we all need some reassurance, from time to time, that computer collecting
> is not merely a deviance or eccentricity.

Yeah, that would be all fine and dandy if that is what you were
discussing, but the fact is, you were telling us all about how you never
went to college, you started an ISP, you became relatively successful with
it, you make twice the median income of your state, you married a
beautiful woman, you think drugs are bad, blah blah blah. So what!? What
does THAT have to do with collecting computers? You claim to be making
some point about the motivation for collecting computers, but where was
it? I think your point was more to brag about your accomplishment, which
I really couldn't care less about, considering: a) I don't know you, and
thus don't care and b) this is not a discussion group for talking about
how good we feel about ourselves.

> You reveal yourself in your words and the manner in which you convey
> them. Should chastisement rain down upon me by the TRUE powers that be,
> then I will accept such knowing that I did so as a mature adult and not as a
> sniveling whiner. I will know that however just or unjust such

If you were a "mature adult" you'd realize you are out of order and would
police yourself. Think about it...only a child need be chastised for
breaking rules. Why not act your physical, rather than mental, age.
> judgement may be, many will recognize my sincerity and respect me for
> my forthright and honest nature and my respect for others. But I will NOT

Blah blah blah. There you go blowing yourself again. Thus proving my
point that all you are interested in is promoting yourself. Go put up a
web page about yourself if you think you're such a fantastic guy. I think
the only thing people will realize in this case is that you are obscenely

> accept condescension or judgement from YOU so descend from your horse and
> stand amongst men (and women) as an equal rather than a self-appointed
> proclaimer of what is worthy and what is unworthy of discussion.

How dramatic. Are you for real?
> As for your threat of spamming, it carries little weight here as it will
> result in the implementation of various hacks which function to deny
> incoming mail from specific mail servers or from specific addresses.

How impressive.

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