principals in online selling? (was: IMSAI 8080)

From: Jeff Kaneko <jeff.kaneko_at_ifrsys.com>
Date: Tue Jun 23 10:41:04 1998

Okay, since I was the person who started this firestorm of
controversy, this is the last I will say about this issue.

Let me begin by saying that I did not purchase this IMSAI
when I had the opportunity for three reasons:

1. I didn't have $300

2. The machine, though historic, did nothing for me
   (I'll Explain)

3. I don't (in general) collect Intel.

Not being into S-100 (I'm an SS-50 person, myself), the machine
had little appeal to me. But I knew that there would be at least
a few of you out there on this list who would be interested.

So I posted it here, so some of our 'gang' could take a swing
at it. The asking price _seemed_ fair, although I personally
felt it was a tad high (more than _I_ would pay, anyway).

What I figured would happen, some one would call, offer the guy
$300, and that would be it. I had _no_ idea that this guy
was gonna jack up the price into the stratusphere ($1,000 ?
c'mon guys! Where's the enjoyment factor here?)

Anyways, this chain of events was definitely _not_ my intention.
Of course, the adage: "The road to Hell is paved grandest of
good intentions" certainly applies here.

I offer my most sincerest apologies for this debacle. Yes, I
know, the deed is done, and it looks like a few of you out there
have been hurt by this. I'm sorry. Had I known this was gonna
happen, I'd a sent the guy to ebay.

Further, I don't think I will be offering any more material that may
be considered 'Investment Grade' (should I encounter any) in the
future, and I would encourage others to do likewise.

Private mail is better. If anyone has any gripes/comments, please
address them directly to me:
                    
                   jeff.kaneko_at_ifrsys.com

And let's give the mailing list back to our hobby, where it belongs.

Thank you for your attention . . ..

Jeff Kaneko


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> At 02:51 AM 6/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >> For Sale:
> >>
> >> IMSAI 8080 Microcomputer
> >[...]
> >> Asking price: $300
> >
> >After a round of email bidding, the seller sez:
> >> IT SOLD FOR $1000. THAMKS FOR THE RESPONSE.
> >
> >Somebody recently suggested that it would be better to offer stuff
> >directly to readers of this list rather than advertising them via online
> >auction. The last IMSAI that sold on eBay went for around $650, I think.
> >
> >FWIW,
> >Doug (still IMSAI-less)
>
> Well... while it may not improve the price, it may improve the audience...
> B^}
>
> While trying to NOT reignite another flame war (which I probably contribute
> to), the qualifier on this idea might be that when you post something, post
> it with an acceptable price. IMHO that should not be a difficult
> proposition for someone who is looking for a good home for a piece of
> equipment. If you are just going to relocate an auction, then you are
> probably only in it for the money! (boy, am I gonna get yelled at for THAT
> one)
>
> What really scrapes my oxide is an approach that I am starting to see more
> often in postings in and newsgroups. (it has happened to me twice now in
> the last month)
>
> Someone posts an item with an asking price. I respond to the message with
> a counter offer. The seller responds with a counter-counter offer that I
> find acceptable. I respond to the message with my acceptance and provide
> shipping details. The seller then responded back indicating that he has
> received a higher offer and that the unit has been sold without so much as
> an opportunity for further response.
>
> Now, maybe it is just me... But from my view when responded with a counter
> to my offer, we were in the midst of transacting a deal and I should have
> 'right of first refusal' until the point that either we make the deal or I
> decide I don't want it.
>
> I don't appreciate multi-thread dealing going on without being informed.
> And it was not like there were any extended delays between these messages.
> The entire series of exchanges occurred over less than 24 hours. Very
> similar for the second occurrance I mentioned above...
>
> BTW: a HERO-2000 auction just closed on eBay for $4027.78... (sheesh!)
>
> -jim (the obviously overly idealistic one...)
>
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