cat Xerox | Apple | Microsoft ?

From: Uncle Roger <>
Date: Fri May 22 19:29:35 1998

At 04:16 PM 5/21/98 PDT, you wrote:
>article says the Apple got their idea from xerox in 1979, and MS
>got their ideas from Apple, and now they have copied the Mac w/Win98

I quote from "The Mac Bathroom Reader" by Owen W. Linzmayer (a
non-technical history of the Mac):

"In return, Apple was allowed two afternoon visits to the PARC labs. When
Jobs first visited with Atkinson in November 1979, he saw with his own eyes
what all the fuss was about. He was so excited that he returned in

Actually, Jobs would have known all about it earlier if he had paid any
attention to Jef Raskin, who had been trying to get him to visit PARC much

>The article in the link argues that Win98 is much worse than the mac,
>which I agree with. I am wondering about its statement that Apple
>knew all about GUI before 1979 with their Lisa. AFAIK, the lisa
>is ~1982...

I dunno about Win98 vs. the Mac; I haven't seen either Win98 or MacOS 8,
but yes, the way I see it, Apple stole from Xerox, Microsoft stole from
Apple, Apple sued lots of people and won, Xerox Sued Apple and lost, etc.

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