Classic != IBM AT

From: Max Eskin <maxeskin_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue Nov 3 18:02:40 1998

While we're talking about weird PC clones, today I tried to take
apart an HP Vectra (1986 or so) at my school. I didn't have much
desire to play with it, but it has a fairly odd configuration. It
has a motherboard, and on it, and ISA bus w/cards and two other
cards. One looks like the drive controller but it has a molex
connector attached to it from the PSU. The other card isn't even an
ISA card, and I couldn't get it out. Anyone know how this machine
is arranged?
>> An Epson Equity has just as much "classic" qaulity as an IBM S/34 or
a
>> PDP....just in a different category is all, and smaller. Everyone
gets hung
>> into their own niche and it's easy to see other machines as
"junkers"......
>>
>> > > At 07:04 PM 11/2/98 +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >Yes, but fortunately the starting date doesn't move forwards as
well. In
>> > > >other words, OK, some 386 PCs with custom chips in them are now
classics
>> > > >on this list (I have a problem with saying that, BTW...).
>> > >
>> > > I tend to agree with you. Discussion of ten-year-old IBM PC
clones
>> > > isn't as interesting. Dare I cause a schism by suggesting that
>
>Still though, this may be a good stepping off point to discuss whether
>there are any near classic models that will have some appeal. Many
>386/486 cpus will flow to the landfill post y2K and it would be a good
>idea to get a head start on a personal want list if any qualify.
>
>It might be way early to debate the merits/demerits of Sony PC
>products and that shouldn't be the topic. However, there are companies,
>some defunct, which might be more interesting than most, many with
>lineage to at least the AT and some back to XT days.
>
>So, any unique models or features? ALR? AST? Northgate? Zeos? Everex?
>Leading Edge? Anything with a cool LED readout? Plenty of IBM models of
>course. Backplane models? Stuff with odd cpu or riser cards?
>
>I've got a Mitsubishi 286 myself with a weird memory card stuck in a
>non-ISA slot and seemingly no internal BIOS setup.
>
>Unlike much older classic computers there should be plenty of these for
>everybody and anybody. The trick will be to know what you want before
>they are cut loose.
>
>The list may be preoccupied with that 10 year discussion limit, but I
>don't see preparation for the next wave of material as too off topic.
>Remember this isn't just about collecting computers, but actually
saving
>models and brands more interesting than average. Better to be prepared
>than kvetch afterward that some model was hot and too bad you can't
find
>it nowadays.
>
>I believe this topic has been discussed before, but this time I am
>willing to take notes and post a summary about a year from now. Keep
this
>note as a reminder and anytime you want to add something, post it to
the
>list if you think we'll all benefit or email me privately.
>
>So, does anybody want to nominate some weirdo or arcane possibilities?
>Would anybody like to go riffle through their complete run of Byte and
>cull interesting stuff from the reviews and ads?
>
>
> -- Stephen Dauphin
>

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