Slips [OT]

From: Geoff Roberts <>
Date: Mon Apr 10 20:50:44 2000

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From: "Chris Kennedy" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: Slips (was Re: !Re: Nuke Redmond!)

> Yeah, although there's a literally a few seconds there where, even
> though you're at the incipient point of spin, you can drag the 150
> out -- a push with full opposite rudder and aileron works, or you can
> just lower the nose and fly out the other side.

That works. And in a stock 150, under our CAA rules, that's all that can
be taught. A spin is now classed as
an aerobatic manoeuvre and must be done only in aerobatic aircraft. Not
really comfortable
with that. My first exposure to a fully developed spin was in a Victa
Airtourer, (looks like an AA5 with 2 seats and a central spade grip
joystick.) and it is somewhat disconcerting the first couple of times
you encounter it. The C150 I learned in had 2 placards about spins.
The factory standard "Intentional spins with wing flaps extended are
prohibited" and another added when the rules changed, "Intentional spins

> I want to say it's 40 degrees vs. 25 degrees max flaps, C150 vs. PA28,
> bud I'd have to check. The Cherokee's flaps aren't a great way
> to get drag, but they do help with lift, which is a good thing given
> the PA28 wants to fall out of the sky and lands fast, as opposed to
> 150 which will drift all the way into the next county and lands almost
> slow as a Cub :-)

Yeah, they do float a bit, ok, a lot..:^)
Never had the pleasure of flying a Cub, somewhat like an Auster I think.
I've watched one of them
take off from a standing start at it's tiedown into a 35kt wind across
the apron, (we gave him a dispensation because he felt it was too risky
to taxi crosswind to the runway.) Looks impressive....:^)
We had a mini airshow here a few weeks back and we had 4 Austers and
several Tiger Moths here,
plus a Stearman, first one I've ever seen. Talk about a step back in
time. The RAAF flew a Pilatus
PC-9 (Basic trainer) up here, single gas turbine, sorta like a 2 seat
Mustang on steroids. Huge contrast.
It has a big brother, the PC-12 that was here same day. Same config, 3
times the size, the RFDS use it,
which surprises me, since they have always used multi engine in recent


Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Mark's College
Port Pirie,
South Australia
ICQ: 1970476
Received on Mon Apr 10 2000 - 20:50:44 BST

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