Slips [OT]

From: allisonp <>
Date: Mon Apr 10 21:02:22 2000

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From: Geoff Roberts <>
>There is certainly a fairly wide variation between supposedly identical

Training birds tend to be more out of rig. Use and abuse.

Mine was never a primary trainer and has better habits.

>Very. One of the guys I spoke too was literally chalk white when he got
>out of the aircraft.
>After years of flying a docile little Cherokee 140 he'd never
>experienced either a stall related
>snap or seen the effect of aileron on a dropped wing in a Cessna.

My first experience with a reall snap was a C152, it was flipped at
55hrs TT. It was a really nice bird but even clean approach stalls
it would violently snap to the right every time. There more about
that one but I prefer to not talk about it. Suffice to say it never got
to 150hrs. Most 152s do not fly like that.

>About sums it up. I did a Cherokee endorsement when I moved to Broken
>Hill in the 70's, and all
>they had was Cherokees, I used to fly a Cherokee Arrow
>(PA28-180-Retractable) home on some weekends, it was a nice ride. But
>the short field performance sucked and you can't taxi them through
>gates up to a house. (Both very important in a bush aircraft in this

it was like landing a brick.

>I did an endorsement on a Victa Airtourer (looks a bit like a 2 seat
>AA5) locally (then - we sold the factory to New Zealand, then the Air

I've seen one.

>engine. Unusual control setup, instead of dual's it had a single stick
>with a spade grip in the middle of the cockpit and a central throttle.
>Easy once you get used to it. Was a lot of fun to fly, I first learnt
>how to spin in that, since spins are classed as an aerobatic manouevre
>in this country - and a stock C150 isn't cleared for them - they teach
>you how to recover from an INCIPIENT spin instead. Not sure I'm
>comfortable with that, spins are very disconcerting the first couple of
>times you encounter them, it should be a requirement.
>I have more hours in C150's than anything else, I liked them a lot.

I feel spins are important training. That and basic acro so there are no
unusual attitudes after that. Of my hours, 600 or so are in '528 my C150
and two others I trained in. It a bird I know very well right to the
I've flown it for 21 years and done a lot of the lighter maintenance even
part of the ovehaul.

>(First plane, first car, first computer, first love - they all seem to
>be special)

ah, yes.

>One day when I am rich and famous (yeah, right) I'm going to buy me one.
>I'd like the one I
>learnt in if I can, last time I looked in a register VH-KQY was still
>doing mustering on a station in Western Australia. Been there since 85.
>At least it's still flying.....

That or one of those odd aussi ag birds.

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