OT Responsibility Re: Dumpster stories!

From: Richard Erlacher <edick_at_idcomm.com>
Date: Thu Feb 10 17:43:07 2000

Chuck, there are a few things you may have forgotten. By the time one has
learned enough about parenting to be of use, it's too late for one's own
children. I've seen exceptions occur, in cases where when the first
"seating" has exited the scene, a second one is introduced. Those are the
exception rather than the rule, however.

Secondly, in an effort to make the nation's children safe from the few truly
abusive parents that we have in our communities, society has rendered
illegal the best and easiest-to-use tool, FEAR, sometimes best bundled with
GUILT, which is the other of these two tools for childrearing.

I had the harrowing experience of having a "counselor," and outsourced
individual provided by a district subcontractor, tell one of my sons that my
rather stern regimen of discipline was "too strict" and, thereby, validating
his desire to disregard my direction. Within weeks the boy was skipping
school, smoking, and not just tobacco, and who knows what else. His school
work was already poor, so that didn't fall off much. It was a long hard
couple of years getting him through high school and off to college.

Does this shed any light?

Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis_at_mcmanis.com>
To: classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: OT Responsibility Re: Dumpster stories!


>At 12:53 PM 2/10/00 -0800, Mike Ford wrote:
>>The only thing is this instance that seems to really work is to fine
anyone
>>the puts out a fridge without removing the door hinges. Children by
>>definition cannot be expected to obey rules, regardless of the rule.
>
>If you are the parent of a child who cannot "obey rules" especially ones
>that will kill them when violated then you must supervise that child. If
>you are unable to supervise them then you either train them or get someone
>else to supervise them. If you are unwilling to supervise them or get them
>supervised and they need it, then your children will die and I will feel
>sad for them but I will blame the parent.
>
>Attempting to make the world "bad parent" safe is not possible.
>
>--Chuck
>
Received on Thu Feb 10 2000 - 17:43:07 GMT