Chris,
Good explanation, you cleared identified a part of the problem but it's
not all the student's fault. An even worse problem is that the students are
taught by teachers that aren't any better educated than the students
they're teaching. We can thanks years of preferential college admissions
and hiring practices for that. Furthermore the quality of teachers as
declined steadily with the rise in power of the NEA and other teacher's
unions since most teacher's are more concerned about their income than in
teaching. Other factors such as the decision to teach in "native languages"
haven't helped either. Every part of the educational system is lowering
it's standards to accomodate the worst (insert your choice here; student,
teacher, school system, income, etc etc). And every part of the system is
failing to support the other parts. The whole educational system is in chaos.
I wonder if the US is the only country that is having these kinds of
problems in it's "educational" system?
Joe
At 09:57 AM 3/9/00 -0800, Chris wrote:
>Richard Erlacher wrote:
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>> I think the reason our kids don't learn languages well is because the tools
>> that should have been taught with English,
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>I recently had the sad task of judging science fair projects from three local
>high schools. It was pathetic. Since this thread is about language skills
>I'll ignore for the moment the more or less complete lack of understanding
>of the scientific method and the extensive use of crayons in constructing
>the presentations and focus on the stellar language skills that were almost
>uniformly present across all of the entries.
>
>The short form summary is that if I'd written in the fashion of these high
>school students when I was in second grade I'd have been taken out and shot.
>Certainly there were large collections of words, some of them polysyllabic,
>but in general they were not arranged into anything that was parsable as
>an english sentence. Written materials depended on spelling correctors
>to eliminate spelling errors, sometimes with frightening yet amusing
>consequences ("...our science fairy teacher...").
>
>There were a few entries which were clever, well constructed, well executed
>and innovative. Talking with the instructors I learned that these were
>from the bright but bored students who twiddle their thumbs while their
>neanderthal classmates struggled with basic coursework (in California the
>instructional system is geared to address the needs of the lowest common
>denominator; resources are generally not available for exceptional
>students). The entry judged Best of Show was constructed by one such
>student in a few hours on the day immediately preceding the judging.
>
>> It's a sad situation.
>
>It's beyond sad. It's criminal.
>
>FWIW, California is now going to start imposing financial penalties upon
>high schools whose students do not perform at some minimal level. The
>problem, of course, is that the students are already lacking fundamental
>skills that they should have received at the elementary level, thus
>penalizing the high schools is not going to fix the problem. Rather, it
>will cause even more resources to be diverted to already unsalvageable
>students while penalizing those who actually have a chance to do something
>useful with their lives.
>
>*Grumble*,
>Chris
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