Unix vs. VAX/VMS and Windows vs. Unix/Linux/BSD -- seems like we've seen this before

From: Bill Pechter <pechter_at_pechter.dyndns.org>
Date: Sun May 7 19:04:21 2000

>>win9x, Unices, Vaxens, Linux is more of nerd's dormain and clueful
>>users who know better to call for help first if some kind of problems
>>becomes out of their depth understanding how to deal with it.

> This left me mystified. VAX/vms running DECwindows is a good
> interface without give away the farm for the user. It's user proof.
> The system admin part is definately not for he average user but
> then neither is linux, unix or NT.

> Its possible to build a OS that has the needed protections that
> seem to be missing from Win9x.
>
> Allison

But until the Vax is available at Intel prices and reliablity (the old
VS3100's and uVaxII's are getting a bit long in the tooth for joe
consumer -- and the disks are now creaky)...

What I wanted is a cheap Alpha box at AMD prices.
With Open/VMS with a 5 or 10 user limit. Decwindows or CDE on it should
be fine. Hell, KDE is free...

Add a working posix layer based on the commands in FreeBSD.
This would the perfect workstation for me.

I wish Compaq would hire me to have them designed and built.

I close with a Quote from the former President:

"One of the questions that comes up all the time is: How enthusiastic
is our support for UNIX?
 
  Unix was written on our machines and for our machines many
years ago. Today, much of UNIX being done is done on our machines.
Ten percent of our VAXs are going for UNIX use. UNIX is a simple
language, easy to understand, easy to get started with. It's great for
students, great for somewhat casual users, and it's great for
interchanging programs between different machines. And so, because of
its popularity in these markets, we support it. We have good UNIX on
VAX and good UNIX on PDP-11s.

  It is our belief, however, that serious professional users will
run out of things they can do with UNIX. They'll want a real system and
will end up doing VMS when they get to be serious about programming.
With UNIX, if you're looking for something, you can easily and
quickly check that small manual and find out that it's not there. With
VMS, no matter what you look for -- it's literally a five-foot shelf of
documentation -- if you look long enough it's there. That's the
difference -- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the beauty of VMS
is that it's all there."

                -- Ken Olsen, president of DEC, DECWORLD Vol. 8 No. 5, 1984

Switch Unix for Windows98... and you kind of have today.

(Where's K.O. now that we need him... Perhaps Advanced Modular Systems
could've done this when they were doing MicroVax, RS6000 and Intel
triprocessor architecture server boxes).

Bill
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                           |     Linux:     Where do you want to go tomorrow?
                           |     BSD:       Are you guys coming, or what?
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