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From: Iggy Drougge <optimus_at_canit.se>
Date: Wed Nov 15 14:40:35 2000

Tony Duell skrev:

>> Tony Duell skrev:
>>
>> >> I don't think I could form any relationship to a 4-bitter, either. I
>> >> woul=
>>
>> >Oh, there are a lot of them about. Of course it depends what you mean by
>> >'4 bit', but if that's the ALU/bus width, then the HP Saturn processor
>> >(used in the 71B, 28, 48, 49, etc, etc, etc) is a 4 bit chip. And I
>> >certainly like those machines (and yes, IMHO they are computers rather
>> >than calculators).
>>
>> I have no idea what you're on about. =)

>Just about every HP calculator since the HP71B has been based on a CPU
>called the Saturn (OK, the HP6S and HP30S aren't). This chip has a 4 bit
>ALU and external bus, but with 64 bit data registers and a 20 bit address
>width.

I know there's a Saturn emulator, but I thought that emulated a PA-RISC. =)

>> Besides, a 4-bit address bus seems utterly, utterly limited.

>Who said anything about a 4 bit address? Address width != ALU width in
>general...

Ah yes, ALU is arithmetic, not address. 8-bit ALUs usually have a 16-bit
address width, right?
As you probably can see, I've never been into lowlevel stuff.

>The Saturn works with 20 bit addresses. Memory is 4 bits wide, so the
>Saturn can address 1Mnybbles (or 512K bytes). Some modern machines
>(HP49G, for example) have bank-switching hardware to extend this further.

Why would you need more than 512K?

>> >> dn't
>> >> mind a 64-bitter for NetBSD purposes, though. 26-bitters are also on my
>> >> w= ish list. =3D)
>>
>> >26 bits? I can't think of a machine with a 26 bit data path. I believe
>> >some ARMs have a 26 bit address bus, but that's hardly a 26 bit machine.
>> >Now 24 bit machines can be interesting...
>>
>> Oh no? Finding an ARM-based machine around here is about as easy as finding
>> a

>What 26 bit machine were you thinking of?

The old Acorn Archimedes machines.
I'm sbscribed to the NetBSD/arm26 list, and I seem to recall that registers...
Oh, forget it. I'm a know-nothing when it comes to the Acorn.

>> live condor in the northern hemisphere.
>> What feature about the older ARM processors is 26 bit?

>In some cases, I believe the address bus was 26 bits wide.

What a nice, round figure.

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