First, I'd like to say thanks to everyone that has provided help. The
insight provided by this group is invaluable in getting a system like this
going :-)
I did a quick inventory of the cards in the rear of the machine plus a
second 1000 carcass that I have and this is what I found:
* (2) Time base generator
* (3) Microcircuit A-2222 / 12566-60032 cards
* (1) 55613 GMR-1 - I have no idea what this is.
* (1) HS Terminal - 12531-80025
* (1) INTF - 1337
* (3) Natel 2101 R/D Converter
I understand the "Time Generator" card but, really don't know the functions
of the other cards. I know some of this info may be on the spies/~AEK site
but, haven't had time to filter through those docs.
The machine also has:
* (1) 64K HSM 12747H - High speed memory
* (1) MEM CONTR 2102B
* (1) M.E.M 12731
I'm assuming these are just extended memory cards and controllers.
At this point, the HP basic route certainly seems like the most doable. I
did see those images on Jeff's site but, was pretty clueless as to how to
get the data into the machine.
Bob: exactly what is involved in your "Paper Tape Emulator". From the
functional description, it doesn't sound all that complicated. This may be
something, I could hack together.
As a side note: I know where there are two more 1000/E that I could get for
about $200 each. While I haven't inventoried them, each of those systems is
a FULL rack of goodies including disk drives, X/Y data monitors, A/D
converters, etc... One of the systems has a combo tape/hard drive and could
possibly still have the OS installed. The other one has dual 8" floppies.
I'm running out of room for rack sized systems but, those probably deserve a
good home (mine).
Happy holidays to all,
SteveRob
>From: Bob Shannon <bshannon_at_tiac.net>
>Reply-To: classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
>To: classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: HP 1000/E
>Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:56:42 -0500
>
>Wow, you got an amazing deal!
>
>I've been looking for a spare 2113 for a while now, as I have a custom
>instrument that is based on a HP 2113 processor. I would have easily paid
>10
>times that price!
>
>As for operating systems and software, you have at least two options...
>
>First, the easy path...
>
>Simply run HP's stand-alone basic. You can download a binary image of the
>media, originally a paper tape, from Jeff's HP2100 Archives. Now you need
>a way
>to get
>that data into the machine, and a console port.
>
>You will also need a 'Buffered TTY Register' board to serve as a console
>serial
>port. Later HP machines (like the 2113) often use the BACI (Buffered Async
>Communications Adapter) board, which is NOT compatible with HP Basic.
>
>Depending on what interface boards you have, we may be able to work out a
>deal.
>
>I usually boot HP Basic from a custom tape reader emulator that holds the
>binary
>image of the paper tape in EPROM. This reader-emulator connects to a HP
>'Microcircuit Interface' board, and the software is loaded using the
>built-in
>boot loader ROMs in the HP 2113. You simply power up, set a few switches
>on the
>front panel, then press IBL, Preset, then IBL once again, and the loader
>code is
>stored in memory. Pressing RUN at this point will load the tape image into
>memory, and away you go.
>
>Now then the hard way...
>
>HP's operating system's for these machines are pretty nasty. The 'top of
>the
>line' OS was RTE-6VM, and the more common OS was RTE-IVB (RTE 4B). These
>operating systems were unlike anything I've ever seen, cryptic, obtuse, and
>fairly painful to use. As an example, to run a compiled program, you had
>to
>link the code into the OS itself.
>
>The hardest part here, is getting a useable disk system. RTE-IVB uses what
>were
>called MAC interface disks, while RTE-6VM also supported ICD drives, using
>a
>specialized version of the IEEE-488 interface.
>
>Supporting the original operating systems is a lot of work, and I strongly
>reccomend you run HP Basic.
>
>Now, what exactly do you have?
>
>The HP 2113 was one of the last machines in a long series going back to
>1968.
>Your 2113 is binary code compatible with the original HP 2116, the first HP
>product to use the then new-fangeled IC chips. HP2113's were still selling
>for
>$13,000+ in 1983, and are exceptionally well-built.
>
>It has no stack, but executes subroutines much like a PDP-8. In addition
>to the
>original HP 2116 instructions, the HP 2113 also adds several new registers
>and
>instructions, as well as a virtual memory scheme that can address 1
>megaword of
>solid-state memory.
>
>Oh yes, many of the original interface boards from a 1968 HP 2116 will plug
>right into your 2113 and work perfectly (but not the cool oscilloscope
>point-plot display board...).
>
>I have a MS-DOS based version of the HP assembler, so you can assemble
>small
>programs on your PC. I am also working on a program for the PC that will
>send
>the paper tape image from the assembler into the HP via my tape reader
>emulator. Once this is working, it should be possible to boot the HP
>directly
>from a file on the PC's disk.
>
>Take a careful inventory of the interface boards you have, and we can see
>if
>there is something in there you can use to get your machine running HP
>Basic.
>(many generic HP interface boards can be made to serve as psudo-tape reader
>interfaces).
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Received on Sun Dec 23 2001 - 10:38:43 GMT