I don't know much about the KIM, though a couple of my friends had them back
in the '70's.
At one time, I had a LARGE number of KIM-2 and a few KIM-3 boards, which
were scrap, made by a local PC house with MOS Technology's tradmark. These
were 4K and 8K, respectively, in size and were SRAMs with on-board power
supply regulation. Though they had the KIM bus connector and were more or
less the size of the KIM-1, they didn't seem to align with the connectors on
the KIM-1, suggesting that the bus connector on the KIM-4 (the expansion
backplane, which I've never seen, was more or less in the center of the
board and would have aligned between the two connectors on the KIM-1. I
saved one of each of these boards, though I've not seen them for several
years, having promised them to one of the KIM users on this list. I may
well have tossed them in a moment of madness due to frustration over my poor
housekeeping ... who knows? ... One of these days I may find them again.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Graham" <agraham_at_ccat.co.uk>
To: <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:38 AM
Subject: ICEbox, AppDEC, KIM, Communicator
> > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:57:30 -0800
> > From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis_at_mcmanis.com>
> > Subject: Re: Intel ???? rescued, weekend finds
> >
> > This is "The ICEBox" an in-circuit emulator for Intel
> > processors. It is a
> > great way to bring up new designs and defeat copy protection
> > schemes :-)
>
> I've got a similar beast manufactured by Amtron. It's a 386PC with a
> specialized interface card that you plug these bloody huge and heavy boxes
> into that you must piggyback over a CPU or something. It came with pods
for
> 8086, 8088, 286, 386SX, 386DX, 486 and 68K chips. Haven't powered it up
yet,
> and some of the pods have never been taken out of their rather large
boxes.
>
> No docs though.
>
> > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:17:44 -0500
> > From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige_at_earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: Machines I'm looking for...
> >
> > According to an ex-Commodore engineer I used to correspond
> > with, they were one and the same thing, as Commodore never did
>
> Have you still got his details? Could you ask him about the European P500?
> :)
>
> > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:02:00 -0500
> > From: Gene Ehrich <gehrich_at_tampabay.rr.com>
> > Subject: TI Expansion Unit
> >
> > I have the following that I am selling for an acquaintance.
> >
> > Let me know if you know anyone who is interested.
> >
> > Texas Instruments Home Computer Peripheral Expansion System
> > Model No. PHP1200 in Original Box
> >
> > Never used
>
> <puts hand up>. I'm interested but I guess I'm in the wrong country :(
>
> > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:40:04 -0500 (EST)
> > From: "r. 'bear' stricklin" <red_at_bears.org>
> > Subject: Re: Windes ME
> >
> > And the N9000 Communicator uses a pair of 80386 CPUs. The 9110 uses an
> > 80486. I know, I was there. (:
>
> Does it? Ooo - I've got a 9110 right next to me ATM, but it looks a bit
dead
> :(
>
> > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:26:14 -0700
> > From: "Mark Gregory" <gregorym_at_cadvision.com>
> > Subject: applicationDEC 433MP
> >
> > - - the machine has 2 memory boards, which give a maximum of
> > 32 megs of ECC
> > RAM, with 40 x 1 meg SIMMs. Can the system use more than 2
> > memory boards, to
> > go to 64 megs? Or can the 1 meg SIMMs be replaced by 4 meg SIMMs?
>
> These things top out at 16mb and only report 14mb available......
>
> > there any OSes that could use 4 processors at a time? Is it
> > worth hunting down two extra CPU cards?
>
> The only OS to use the dual CPU was a SMP version of SCO U**x 3.x, but I
> could never see the point of a dual CPU machine with so little RAM
> available!
>
> > - - there's a TZK10-AA tape drive in the system. What tape
> > cartridges does this drive use?
>
> Off the top of my head I can't remember, so I'll go downstairs and get the
> DEC bumf for it.
>
> > engineered, but I had never heard of them before I found this
> > one, and the
> > MicroPDP-11 that I got with it ... but that's another story.
>
> We only ever sold 1 (the mini version) to a local college to run some
> financials on, we used one internally for SCO development (ack - what a
> terrible OS), another one ended up with NT on it as a server and it ended
> its days as a humble fax server - the other one ended up with Winduhs 95
on
> running as a Quake server :o))
>
> I think they were eclipsed 'cos that was around the time the PC market
> started exploding.....
>
> > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:16:55 -0700
> > From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick_at_idcomm.com>
> > Subject: Re: KIM-1 restoration advice sought
> >
> > switch matrix to match what's on the KIM. I've built memory
> > circuits, etc,
> > for the KIM, but never paid much attention to the KIM itself,
> > hence, I can't
> > remember anything specific about the keypad, except that it
>
> Do you know anything about memory modules for the KIM made by "The
> Computerist"? My Kim's got one and I was told it's also an EPROM
blower....
>
> Ross:
>
> > Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately I don't think it
> > has anything like standard parts. Everything about it looks
> > custom-molded to fit the
> > unusual key shape (curved keytops with painted legends and
> > smoothly-rounded key edges), unusual key layout (slide switch
> > + two independent buttons and 3 x 7 matrix of scanned buttons).
> >
> > The way it's put together suggests to me a very well-designed
> > custom keypad that would only make sense if sold in the
> > thousands.
> >
> > Of course, as always, I could be wrong. :)
>
> I think that the keypad for the KIM is actually from one of the CBM
> calculators of the day since they'll have had one or two lying around!
> Certainly from a looks point of view its identical to the keypad on one of
> my non-scientific calcs from around '76/'77, both layout and power switch
> are the same.
>
> Back on me head :o)
>
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