very true, fossil oil will remain the dominant fuel for the forseeable
( until the end of my lifetime anyway ) future. However, if you've got
a couple of acres ( not yet ) or live in the middle of a couple of chip
fat users ( I do ) it is possible to
a - actually do something for the environment whilst still
having a life with the outside world.
b - live a damn site more cheaply than previously ( we're also
looking into oil fired heating/cooking ).
c - stuff the UK government for the tax ( which is pretty bad
over here in the UK ).
You're also right about it not being viable to demand every car to run
on old chip fat. Granted and very true. I'm just lucky enough to have
stumbled accross the receipe, be dumb enough to give it a bash ( wife
wondered for around a week what the smell was before I told her ) and
have some local shops be prepared to let me have their 'waste'. It's
also helping them reduce their costs ( they don't have to pay for the
oil to be taken away ).
Finally, and I don't want this to turn into a great big 'green' rave (
this *is* classic computing after all ), I can't see any issue with
using bioD is any form. If it drives up the demand for oil based plants
( and I guess this goes the same for wood and ethanol ( right one ? )
), then more places will grow it. If more places grow it there will be
more of the carbon sinks the US are so fond of touting as their reason
not to ratify the Kyoto thingie ( falme war ahead, beware ). As someone
who is now quite happily self suff. in transport fuel and hopefully
domestic fuel shortly, it doesn't bother me whether other people take
up bioD. I wish they would as I think it would be a better idea than
drilling more holes in the only place we've got.
Mmmm, said too much already, I can hear the white coats being unrapped
as we speak ;-)
Anyway, about this VAX I've got ......
Have fun
D
-----Original Message-----
From: rigdonj
Sent: 09 July 2001 16:00
To: classiccmp
Cc: rigdonj
Subject: RE: Re: OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be
off ensive, possible humor)
At 02:57 PM 7/9/01 +0100, David wrote:
>bit out of my field, but there's no reason we can't run cars' on
>biodiesel. Renewable fuel source with fewer pollutants. I'm currently
>running my Peugeot on recycled chip fat oil, which I get free from the
>local chippie ( they have to pay for theirs to be removed as it's an
>'industrial waste' and hence were more than happy for some bod to come
>along a offer to take it away for free ).
That's great. That's exact the kind of inventiveness that is
needed
to solve the energy crisis. However I think you'll agree that it would
be
rediculous to require that ALL cars run on chip oil. There simply
isn't
enough of it around. That's the same problem with alcohol, there isn't
enough for it to be a viable fuel source. Yes, we could make more but
at
what price and with what kind of sacrifices? (more grain used to
produce
alcohol = less grain for food producton = higher food prices). Like it
or
not, gasoline will remain the major fuel source for the forseeable
future.
Joe
Visit our website at
http://www.ubswarburg.com
This message contains confidential information and is intended only
for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you
should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please
notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this
e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.
E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free
as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed,
arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore
does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents
of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If
verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This
message is provided for informational purposes and should not be
construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or
related financial instruments.
Received on Mon Jul 09 2001 - 10:51:07 BST