Hackers: Computer Outlaws revisited

From: Sellam Ismail <foo_at_siconic.com>
Date: Thu Jul 26 11:11:04 2001

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Clint Wolff (VAX collector) wrote:

> How would YOU feel if someone broke into your computer system and took
> YOUR files to do whatever he felt like with? Or hacked your voicemail
> system and listened to your messages?
>
> I know your knee-jerk reaction... I don't have anything I care about
> on my computer...

Not at all, I wasn't defending Mitnick's behvaiour at all, and if you'll
recall, in a previous message I referred to him as a "criminal thug" and
in the message you are replying to I did say he was spinning some
revisionism on the story.

> People who break into computers are criminals.

If their intent is criminal then yes, they are criminals.

> People who launch DDOS attacks are criminals.

Sure.

> Kevin Mitnick is a CONVICTED criminal, and has ADMITTED criminal
> behaviour. I don't get teary-eyed thinking about the time he spent in
> prison before the trial. He was a proven flight risk (he ran away
> once, and hid out in Denver).

Me either. But then you forget just how badly the US Gubment violated his
civil rights. I don't know who's the bigger criminal in this case:
Mitnick or the Government. And believe me, I fear the Government WAY
more than I fear Mitnick. The Government is everywhere, and much more
powerful.

> I wonder how Littman would react if someone broke into HIS system.

I'm sure he would not be happy, but at least he was honest and truthful
about the whole affair.

> PS I daily have probe attacks on my DSL system from script kiddies
> looking to add another machine to their DDOS attack farm.

Yeah, me too, but I don't obsess over it. I just make sure my security is
tight and worry about more important things.

Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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