Vintageness ( was Re: Serious Request For Moderation (On Topic) and IMSAIs........

From: Sellam Ismail <foo_at_siconic.com>
Date: Tue May 8 18:03:46 2001

On Tue, 8 May 2001, Chuck McManis wrote:

> Reproductions should be clearly labelled as such. The guy selling the
> Mark-8 clone attempts to make the case that if you make the PCBs by
> hand (as you would have in 1974), and you buy parts that were
> available to buy back in 1974 (w/ 1974 date codes) and you assemble it
> according to the directions in the article, then building it "today"
> is just as legit as if it has been built in 1974.

I would disagree with this thinking. The era is completely different. As
I said in a previous message, it is an important distinction, since you
really are assembling something from scratch (new old stock) vs. just
putting together existing pieces (used old stock).

> I can see the argument and its one used on the Concourse (classic car)
> circuit a lot. If the car has all original parts (even if they came from 6
> different cars) then its an "original" as opposed to "it came out of the
> factory like this." The Mark-8 is a particularly unique example in that
> there was no 'factory.'
>
> I'm on the Concourse side in VAX land, if it was a DEC supported
> configuration then I consider it "classic" even if the system didn't arrive
> that way. Sometimes I've backed out things DEC _didn't_ support but the
> customer did.

In the case of a car or a VAX, you are mostly swapping various parts
(engines, doors, emblems or boards, power supplies, hard drives
respectively). In the case of a Mark-8, you are going down to the
component level using whatever parts you can scrounge up that just happen
to have the appropriate date codes. Is this a valid distinction? I think
so.

If you were able to get, say, the original manifold dyes and smelt your
own manifolds that are basically the same as the original, are they truly
original?

Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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