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From: Eric Chomko <chomko_at_greenbelt.com>
Date: Sat May 12 19:02:50 2001

Pardon me for jumping in...

Iggy Drougge wrote:

> Sellam Ismail skrev:
>
> >On 12 May 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
>
> >> Da Vinci is famous because he (along with a lot of other works)
> >> painted Mona Lisa, not the opposite. If the greatness of Mona Lisa
> >> lies in being touched by him, then wouldn't his utensils be works of
> >> art as well?
>
> >Silly argument, but I'll humor you by saying they would at least be highly
> >collectable (and highly valued), as they were used to paint the Mona Lisa.
> >Are you starting to see the connection here?
>
> Of course they would be highly valued, but my point is not whether they are,
> but whether they should.
>

Whether something or anything "should" WRT the world is basically a "why"
question.
A wise man once told me that the answer to every "why" question is "because."


>
> >> Da Vinci's greatness as an artist stemmed IOW from his ability to
> >> produce great works of art. A work of art is a work of art even if
> >> mass-produced, the last century has taught us as much.
>
> >Abstractly, yes. The original is a tangible product of the man, hence
> >it's value relative to copies.
>
> Are copies less tangible?

No, more tangible, and that is the point! When speaking of rarity and value
one deals with supply and demand. The demand for copies of originals can
always met, therefore the price is low. The demand for a unique item will
drive the price of the item up as long as more than one person wants it.

Why is it like that? Because!

>
>
> >> But then that is metaphysics, and should we really invest that much
> >> money into something which essentially would be a golden calf?
>
> >A golden calf, as in idol worshipping? Is this becoming religious? I
> >hope not. Things connect us to the past. Perhaps you keep a memento that
> >reminds you of a dead relative, for example? Or maybe you're an
> >emotionless bastard and you don't, in which case you can't understand my
> >point?
>
> I'd go for the second. Bastards don't have emotional ties to their relatives.
> =)
>
> >> But of course it can! It's built from the same plans and offers the
> >> same functionality.
>
> >And it has all the historical significance that everything "Made in
> >Taiwan" has. Yes, of course!
>
> It doesn't matter whether it's built in Taiwan or the Czech republic as long
> as it's according to the plans.
>

That's not exactly correct when trying to determine the value of something.

By your own arguement, no one here should collect an old computer based upon
functionality, as I can buy a new one than can out perform the old ones.
Therefore,
no one should bother with older ones regardless of model or type.

Eric

>
> --
> En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
>
> optimus_at_dec:foo$ %blow
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