Windows, std OS in Hell

From: Bill Pechter <pechter_at_ureach.com>
Date: Fri Nov 9 08:46:32 2001

---- On Fri, 09 Nov 2001, Geoff Reed (geoffr_at_zipcon.net) wrote:

> At 01:20 AM 11/9/01 -0800, you wrote:
> > >What confused me for a long time, and is currently
scheduled for
> again this
> > >evening, is that Apple printers in many cases are NOT
TCP/IP, but
> ethertalk
> > >(same physical layer, different protocol). Some of the
bridges and
> routers
> > >pass TCP/IP or EtherTalk, but not both, then add to that
the native
> network
> > >blind character of a Wintel box and I am walking in a foggy
forest.
> > >
> > >Tonights fun, Apple Laserwriter 16/600 vs W98se, film at
11.
> >
> >I've been digging at this problem for a few weeks, and I
almost don't
> >believe the answer. Windows machines apparently won't print
directly
> to
> >network printers. (obviously NT will, ditto maybe w2k, but
not 95 or
> 98).
> >The story I hear is that Microsoft wanted to sell more NT
servers, so
> they
> >pulled the support for standard protocols like LPR (something
like
> that)
> >forcing users to print from a workstation to a NT server,
which
> contains
> >the protocols to talk to the network printers directly. Why
did
> windows
> >users allow MicroSoft to get away with crap like that?
> >
> >BTW the sane alternative appears to be SAMBA, but it still is
really
> wrong.
> >HP has wizard software that gets around this somehow, but
Apple can't
> even
> >remember it was in the printer business 4 years ago.
>
> Nope, WFW3.11, Win95 and Win98 were designed as "small office
/ home
> operating systems" and were never given support for LPR
protocol as you
>
> weren't expected to see that in a SOHO / Workgroup or Home
setting.
> (In
> yet another previous incarnation I was a support tech for POS
at
> Microsoft
> [Personal Operating Systems] )
>
>
>
>


There are lpr drivers available as shareware or commercial
products for Win3.x, Win95 and higher.

Most of the third party add on printer servers come with an lpr
capability for Win9x and there's a shareware one on Simtel for
Windows 3.x with a winsock.

Lan Workplace also had one from Novell.


Bill
--
Bill Pechter
Systems Administrator
uReach Technologies
732-335-5432 (Work)
877-661-2126 (Fax)
Received on Fri Nov 09 2001 - 08:46:32 GMT

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