From: Curt Vendel <>
Date: Sat Apr 6 17:43:52 2002

Here's an interesting history tidbit... the Tramiels were so strapped for
cash when they took over Atari, that in order to pay DRI for the work on GEM
68K for the ST computers.... they paid DRI with the VAX 11/750 located in
the Atari Grass Valley R&D lab which was closed shortly after. I spoke
with Ron Milner, one of the original Atari engineers and he explained how
one day Gary Kildall and crew were in the R&D computer room disconnecting
the Vax and was explained that it was their "payment" for developing a new
OS for the Tramiels.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Walker" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: GEM-OS

> They had a common origin in GEM 1.2. The ST GEM ran on top of TOS.
> The guy who wrote it for DRI (Lee Lorenzen) was one of the Xerox Parc
> people who really developed the GUI as well as mouse usage. Jobs
> glommed his Mac ideas as well as numerous coders from Parc and then
> sued DRI for copying the Mac. He won and DRI was forced to cripple later
> versions and never marketed it very seriously even tho it preceded
> For some reason Apple didn't go after the ST or Ventura Publisher which
> used GEM. Lorenzen was one of the founders of Ventura.
> Lawrence
> > And thusly Curt Vendel spake:
> > >
> > > Don't forget Diamond which is a GEM TOS "look-alike" version designed
for the
> > > Atari 8bits which original came on disk and then came on Super
> > > format. Designed by Reevesoft.
> > >
> >
> > Does the GEM TOS have any relationship to the GEM OS that was available
> > for the PC? (Other then name)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
Received on Sat Apr 06 2002 - 17:43:52 BST

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