On Monday 22 April 2002 20:28, you wrote:
> > Ok so you dont know anything about unix, thats what you are
> > saying here.
>
> True, but considering most of unix was developed
> in a educational atmosphere were only a few programs ran
> -- text editor -- C Compiler -- TROFF at once because that
> all a student or staff member could run because resorce limitations.
And today you have enough hardware in a PC box to support
5,000 people doing the same thing, not that your lust for faster
hardware is over, because unix is doing things that Ken and Dennis
never envisioned.
http://www.nop.org/misc/unix/ken-and-den.gif
""If we prevent them from doing stupid things, we also prevent
them from doing creative things"" - Cant Remember Who
And these new things are seem seemless because the system
concepts are extensable with flexability in depth
Winblows by contrast has the depth of leftist reason and
the flexability of a socialist utopian machine gunner setting up
40 paces from a fresh dug mass grave ditch.
and like winblows, equal use and benifit to you if your aim and desire
dont fit with theirs.
Flexability is freedom, freedom gives birth to creativity.
> > Its also apparent that everything you have been told about it came
> > from those equally ignorant, they are all wrong.
>
> What is true or false is not important as this is the view I have
> of the systems with the knowlage and understanding from what I have
> seen.
True or false dont matter ? you really would make a good leftist
( called liberal today, even as the real liberal is the opposite of a
leftist, its George Orwells newspeak, todays liberals are not liberals
they are leftists, perhaps Marxocrat would be a good label )
> > Gimp dont translate to a tty very well, but an xterm is certainly the
> > bitmapped representation of the tty.
>
> BUT I MAY NOT WANT a bit map when running under XWINDOWS!
> I want a 80x25 screen (640x480) because I can read the screen for
> text-editing!
> No font's under X-windows (linux) would give me that!
What makes you think they wont ? you can have any size you want.
> > Unix already has this X11 is a standard you can run your sun apps
> > your irix apps your freebsd apps all on the GUI of your linux box all
> > at once. and last time i looked, all the other systems have adopted
> > our plumbing, not the other way around.
>
> It is not the plumbing -- it is what goes down the pipe that needs to
> be standarded!
This is wrong, to do so would eliminate creativity.
New protocols are invented every day, the usefull ones end up
being adopted and the bad ones on the ashheap.
Software darwinism is a good thing.
> > eh ? what would be wrong with a nice large 4096 x 3192 screen
> > with whatever size fonts you desire ? and the ability to populate
> > that screen with the workload of a whole stack of boxes.
> 1) Not everybody has the same standard fonts!
> 2) I like 1 screen 1 program and screen flipping.
This is wrong ... X11 does come with a full set of standard
fonts. and adding more is easy.
> > "Well the end user experience" is system agnostic except
> > for the winblows limitations that dumbs your system down
> > to the microset winblows can provide. unix has point and
> > click too, but it isnt implimented stupidly.
>
> But the 3 button mouse is hard to find!
On a 2 button mouse, you press both buttons to simulate
button 3, it works smoothly and perfectly well.
> > You would make a good leftist, the asurdity seems high enough.
> After 40 years waiting for public space travel, my faith in NASA
> is wearing thin.
Public space travel to where ?
I also dream of the day when a colony on mars is in full tilt of the 100
- 1000 year job of terraforming the place, complete with a planetary
mag field generator to fend off them nasty solar rays, but we are
still suffreing the leftist egalitarian poison that has raped the planet
of man potential. ( and left 200 million of its citizens in mass graves )
When the social enginners are no longer putting the jackboots
of goverment on the necks of the acheavers in the name of
"social justice" and the envirowackos stand fully discredited
by the emissions data from the volcano Penetubo, perhaps then
we can get along back to the accent of man.
Raymond
Received on Mon Apr 22 2002 - 22:53:59 BST
