On Tuesday 23 April 2002 01:22, you wrote:
> Hardware OS Notes
> ======== == =====
> HP/Apollo 700 HP/UX 9.x
> HP/Apollo 700 HP/UX 10.01 + 10.10? dual boot
> DEC Alpha 2000 (?) OSF 1
> Motorola Mxxx Motorola Unix v.X forgotten machine
> Motorola Myyy Motorola Unix v.Y & OS version names
> SUN Sparc 5 Solaris 2.5.1
> SUN SLC Solaris 2.5.1
> SUN 3/60 SunOS 4.1.1
> IBM RS6000 AIX v.X & v.Y forgotten versions,
> dual boot
> Intel SCO Unix
> Intel Dynix
> Intel ?nix more memory loss
>
Pretty impressive, now all of that old hardware is showing up on e-bay
Drool at one time over a SS10 ? SGI Indy ? now you can have one cheap !
My most treasured old unix box however is my Sony News 3250
http://www.nop.org/misc/unix/news-3250.jpg
http://www.nop.org/misc/unix/sony
It runs a 20 mhz mips 3000r and was the original target platform
for sysVr4 on Mips
http://www.nop.org/misc/text/sony.unix.announcement.html
The machine still works, and more pointedly is still usefull
despite its age.. to wit
sony:/# uname -a
sony sony 4.0 5.0.1 NEWS3200 mips.r3000
sony:/# bash -version
GNU bash, version 1.14.7(1)
sony:/# gcc --version
2.7.2.3
sony:/# w
4:55am up 200 days, 8:18, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.00, 0.00
sony:/# rdate rx
Tue Apr 23 04:55:27 2002
sony:/# ls -l /stand
total 4064
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 12880 May 10 1991 boot
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 512 Jan 6 1991 mdec
-r-xr-xr-x 1 bin 6432 May 10 1991 tftpboot.single
-rw-r--r-- 1 bin 4135440 May 10 1991 unix
This is an old ecoff bin format system that dont have shared libs
so some modern stuff can compile a bit too fat, but i ported
gcc to the thing. and a more modern compiler running on it
was a big victory, since it paved the way to import all the nice gnu
replacements for things, its still the original 1991 kernel however.
There are scanned docs and the OS tree in the links above if you
want to look the thing over.
If it was any other type of machine of the same age, it certainly
would not still be usefull as this one is, and would not be capable
of running modern software like this one is ( within reason ).
This machine is quite happy as a coffee table Xterminal for the
bigger boxes and runs the same stuff locally ( again, within reason)
that my modern machines do.
Perhaps the only other arch i can think of that can claim this,
is the IBM line of mainframes s360/370/390 Zseries
that now, (
http://linux390.nop.org ) is running the same
stuff.
these are probably the only two systems that have preserved
and built upon all their years of programmer sweat.
Unix has much that it can claim today on this preservation
of investment, we stand today on the shoulders of giants,
and the view aint too shabby.
> Now, I've watched people trying to do software development on Windows
> systems over the years, and I've done a little myself here and there.
> Every time there is a new service pack or OS release there are wailings and
> rendings of clothes on all sides.
When i went looking for software for my 1991 mips based Sony,
i dug tarballs out of the current slackware source tree, and
presto ... modern userspace stuff.
there are plenty office apps of X11 now in source form btw
gnumeric is a nice sheet and there is plenty others
even siag office is actually all anyone really needs and the only
stuff you will find missing is the stuff you never use.
> Bob Bramwell Snail: 60 Baker Cr. NW | If I die in war you remember me;
> ProntoLogical Calgary, AB | If I live in peace you don't.
> +1 403/861-8827 T2L 1R4, Canada | - Spike Milligan (1919 - 2002)
How about this one:
Kinsman die and cattle die and so also for oneself.
But there is one thing that never dies.
That is the fame of a dead mans deeds.
Cheers!
Raymond
Received on Tue Apr 23 2002 - 05:22:57 BST
