COSMAC VIP documentation (was Re: Need help finding old IBM PC game)

From: Ross Archer <archer_at_topnow.com>
Date: Mon Aug 19 17:30:01 2002

Joe wrote:
>
> At 01:47 PM 8/19/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >--- Joe <rigdonj_at_cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >> At 10:36 AM 8/19/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >--- Joe <rigdonj_at_cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> I was in a surplus store today and...
> >> >>... did find a 6 inch high stack of manuals for the RCA Cosmac VIP
> >> >> :-) :-) :-) :-)
> >> >
> >> >Did you get them?
> >>
> >> You bet!
> >
> >Good for you.
> >
> >> If so, what part numbers?
> >>
> >
> >http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dllViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj
> >
> >> No one seemed interested so I put them on E-bay. If you're interested in
> >> the VIP or ELFs then take a good look at them, there's LOTS of good info
> >> in them.
> >
> >Looks like I have originals for all of the photocopied data sheets
> >and RCA manuals you have (and possibly one or two you don't), but I
> >do not have any issues of VIPER.
>
> The VIPER news-letters are really great. There's loads of good info in them. Mike has PILES of RCA docs for the Cosmac, ELF, VIP and other 1802 stuff.
>
> >
> >> I have a VIP too (altough Mike has it at the moment). I bought at a
> >> hamfest earlier this year. I bought the manuals from the same people
> >> except they were at their store. 99% chance that these manuals went with
> >> that same VIP.
> >
> >I got my VIP about 16 years ago for $35 at Dayton (same year I got
> >an ASR-33 w/110 baud data set for $20). What manuals I have, came
> >from the local RCA distributor for cover price ($5) or free.
>
> I got this VIP for substantially less than that at a recent hamfest. Mike Haas and I had both been over this guys stuff at least three times then I decided to go through the stuff one more time while Mike went and got the car. That's when I found the VIP. Needless to say, Mike was quite upset! It's amazing how many times you can look through the same stuff and still find something that you previously overlooked.
>
> >
> >Somewhere, I have a cassette of CHIP-8 and most of the CHIP-8 games
> >from the VIP manuals - I typed it all in and saved it to tape myself.
> >One of my ultra-low priority projects is to locate the tape, slurp
> >it into a modern machine and cut MP3s of the programs and see if I
> >can use my Rio PMP300 (or portable CDDA/MP3 player) as a load device.
>
> That would be "interesting"!


It would probably work. I have a few KIM-1 cassette
programs
(most at 3x normal speed) posted as WAVs at
http://www.learnmicros.com. (And a few songs that KIM sings
too,
also as WAVs.) :)

This seems to be 100% reliable once you get the levels
right.
As an aside, none of those recordings came from a recorder,
but
directly from a "C" program which generated the WAV samples.

Probably the worst case would be you'd need an RC low-pass
filter between the playback device and your cassette input,
to simulate the low-pass characteristics of a voice-grade
tape recorder.

Undoubtedly, you'd have to experiment with the sample rate
and stuff. I found 16 Khz mono with 8 bit samples works
fine
for KIM at 3x speed (half-hypertape.) I couldn't figure out
how to generate half a wave in my "C" program, so I stopped
at 3 x normal speed. Hypertape's still da fastest for KIM.
:)

-- Ross



-- Ross


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Received on Mon Aug 19 2002 - 17:30:01 BST

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