List filtering (was Re: SOME ITEMs from another AOLamer)

From: Jerome Fine <jhfine_at_idirect.com>
Date: Sun Feb 3 16:31:08 2002

>Sellam Ismail wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Brian Chase wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Jerome Fine wrote:
> > > One alternative method INSTEAD of moderating for the short term is
> > > to identify ALL incoming which are NOT from a subscriber in some
> > > special manner. That way, if some individuals want to filter just those
> > > messages, that would be very easy. If that works, then it may not be
> > > a problem at all!
> > I quite like this idea. It's a good compromise between leaving things
> > as they are, and outright blocking non-subscribers. Apart from pushing
> > the filtering decision out to the end user, it also will allow us to get
> > a better idea of how many non-subscriber submissions the list receives.
> Um, this idea sucks. What if I don't use a mailer that supports
> filtering?

Jerome Fine replies:

Then you don't - it is your choice - I actually probably could filter, but I
don't. In any case, if there are so few messages from off the list, then
a simple clear 4 characters "[OT]" at the start to clearly identify the
message is trivial.

> Look, the discussion over this issue is stupid. Why the HELL do we have
> to discuss every gawd damn issue that comes up to death? I FUCKING HATE
> DEMOCRACIES!!!

Well, then live elsewhere! If I used the same language you use, I would
as well. Besides, I did not say that would be the final solution - just something
that could probably be done once, easily, and it then makes it easy to tell
the difference.

> If Jay would just pop his head in once in a while and respond to messages
> regarding list maintenance, we could get this issue solved once and for all.
> MAKE THE LIST WRITEABLE BY SUBSCRIBERS ONLY!!!
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival

While I really don't care what is done, I think you owe an apology to Jay.
(a) Jay is performing a service and not being paid for it. Even if you
are willing, right now it is Jay who is doing it. So put a lid on it
(b) Jay can have all the time he pleases and respond when it is convenient
for him to do so.
(c) I seem to remember that certain individuals were responsible for a great
many messages that most other individuals on the list did not appreciate. If
you don't like the way the list is run, please leave.

I don't wish to have any more discussion on this topic since I see that it
is getting out of hand. I will let Jay decide.

If you want to comment on anything here, send if off the list!

Sincerely yours,

Jerome Fine
Received on Sun Feb 03 2002 - 16:31:08 GMT