IBM R390 IPL woes...

From: Boatman on the River of Suck <>
Date: Wed Jan 16 19:27:05 2002

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Dave McGuire wrote:

> > From what I've learned so far -- you won't hear much
> > about these systems in the open systems community. If
> > you go trolling through vendor and support
> > organization sites, stick to the mainframe folks. I'm
> > afraid that's as much of a brain dump as I've got on
> > sourcing these boards. If you do find a source, please
> > pass the information on. I'd love to add one to my

Try Reliable Computer. Beware. though.
Evem though you can get a P/390 and a Channel for $2,000, the OS license
(for z/VM) will be about $20,000. And don't even think about getting a

> > collection. Until then I'll have to deal with
> > Hercules. Not that this is a bad thing. Hercules on a
> > decent piece of hardware is considerably faster then a
> > P390 board. The one I've got is all of 72mHz clock
> > speed and 128MB RAM. You could build a much more
> > substantial LINUX based system to host a mainframe
> > operating system.
> Yes but then I'd have to deal with a PeeCee. And Linux. Thanks for
> the info though. :-)

And you would have to deal with the lack of I/O and Memory bandwidth of a
PC. A P/390 will *stomp* a PC running Hercules for most of the popular
mainframe applications (eg. DB2, CICS, COBOL, etc.).

> As I mentioned in other mail, I have a P/390 here (PCI version) that I
> haven't gotten running yet. The PeeCee hardware is doing what it does
> best...being an inconsistent pile of monkey turds. I hate PeeCees. I
> think I'm just gonna have to get an S/390 and deal with the electric
> bill. Might as well do it right.

Or you could get yourself a PCI-based RS/6000 and not have to deal with
any of the PC bullshit.

Peace... Sridhar
Received on Wed Jan 16 2002 - 19:27:05 GMT

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