Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System

From: Curt Vendel <curt_at_atari-history.com>
Date: Thu Jun 6 21:34:37 2002

Marvin:

   Sorry about that, I've been getting blitzed with spam for the last 2 days
so I jacked up the security on my email server a little too much and was
only permitting domains with valid MX records to send me mail, but I also
had an extra entry for doing reverseDNS lookups too, so the ruleset ran into
a small conflict, I just corrected it (or hope that I have :-) I need to
refresh my RBL's and also submit all these asses domains to the RBL's as
well to have them blocked off. Damned spammers are getting smarter each
day, they are using valid domains like yahoo.com and such and even redoing
the headers so that the from is the to so that the domain acceptance is
valid, but if the MX doesn't properly reflect the actually, then its
rejected. What a pain in the ass. Sorry... just venting.


Curt


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin_at_rain.org>
To: <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System


>
> Hi Curt,
>
> I tried to email you, but it was rejected with an error message
> "<curt_at_atari-history.com>: host mail.atari-history.com[216.74.138.181]
> said: 501 5.7.1 <marvin_at_rain.org>... Sender domain must resolve". Got
> your email, and I'll get back (somehow) with you next week.
>
> Apologies to the rest of the listserver.
>
> Marvin
>
> Curt Vendel wrote:
> >
> > Okay, then that makes more sense. Yeah, the Apple and IBM cards were
> > called Corvus Transporter Cards, so I would have to assume the same on
the
> > Dec Rainbows, it would be interesting to actually find one of those
cards
> > and have a look at it.
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur_at_technologist.com>
> > To: <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> >
> > > No, the Rainbow had no built-in network ports except a serial port
which
> > > we had hooked to our VAX and used it with terminal emulation.
> > >
> > > Corvus had an add-in card for the Rainbow (and an ISA card for the PC)
> > > that implemented their specific network protocol (I have no idea what
it
> > > was, but it was not ethernet or anything like that...)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:12 PM
> > > To: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
> > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > >
> > >
> > > So.... the Rainbows, weren't they still using DECnet and LAT through
the
> > > built in AUI??? Was the Corvus Disk Server LAT Compatible or
> > > something???
> > > This is very interesting.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur_at_technologist.com>
> > > To: <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > >
> > >
> > > > No, we didn't use our Corvus system with VMS. DEC Rainbows (semi-PC
> > > > compatible machines running MS-DOS) and PC's are what we used it
with.
> > > >
> > > > - Bob
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org]
> > > > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM
> > > > To: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No way? Corvus worked on VMS too??? I never knew that, wow!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Curt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur_at_technologist.com>
> > > > To: <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:34 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That was it. CORVUS, that's what we used to network our DEC
Rainbows
> > >
> > > > > and PC's back in 1984.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org
> > > > > [mailto:cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:17 PM
> > > > > To: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sellam,
> > > > >
> > > > > When Novell First started out in I think 1979 they used to be
> > > > > NDS, Inc. (How Ironic right?) They started out doing custom
> > > > > build-to-order
> > > >
> > > > > hardware
> > > > > and software. They developed S-Net for serving files and
printing
> > > to
> > > > > networked machines. Their biggest hurdle was getting files
served
> > > > to
> > > > > all
> > > > > of the diverse systems out there at the time (DOS, CP/M and so
> > > > > forth) and I recall something about Noorda bringing in some
> > > > > heavy-weight programmer who got their proprietary systems to
connect
> > >
> > > > > to PC's and other systems and they when they went into a total
> > > > > re-org, started working on Protective Mode OS's, changed their
name
> > > > > to Novell and really shook things up, one of my other favorites
was
> > > > > Corvus as they were really doing some remarkable stuff and
> > > > > they got murdered by Novell as they just couldn't keep up.
Anybody
> > > > > remember the old 3Com 3+Open Network Servers that had to load
> > > > everything
> > > > > from QIC Tapes? How about Banyan Networks. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember in my early days of working as a technician I saw
one
> > > > > of
> > > >
> > > > > the first Novell fileservers that a "Network Engineer" was working
> > > > > on and when he popped the case (Standard XT Type Case) it was a
> > > > > custom M68000 motherboard, the first I'd ever seen before and I
was
> > > > > amazed and it always stuck with me and I've been meaning to go
> > > > > looking for one as I've been working with Novell since 2.12
> > > > > generating those good old NET$OS files (Oh joy!).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo_at_siconic.com>
> > > > > To: <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:46 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for
> > > > > > > > sale/trade?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem
> > > > > > > with IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Since I've
> > > > > > > never fired
> > > >
> > > > > > > them up except for the hard drive module, I don't know if they
> > > > work
> > > > > > > or not. They do not have any software with them but they seem
to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > complete and were
> > > > >
> > > > > > > working when pulled from service. Since I am cutting back on
> > > > > > > most things that are post 1982 or so, these are extra. Contact
> > > > > > > me off list if you are interested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000.
> > > > > > Did it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to
> > > > > > later versions of Netware?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sellam Ismail Vintage
> > > > Computer
> > > > > Festival
> > > > >
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Received on Thu Jun 06 2002 - 21:34:37 BST

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