E-6B usage

From: J.C. Wren <jcwren_at_jcwren.com>
Date: Sat Jun 15 09:47:29 2002

Surely you're not telling me the FAA no longer requires students to know how
to perform these functions manually, nor requires them to demonstrate that
knowledge?

    --John
  -----Original Message-----
  From: cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Bob Shannon
  Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 09:52
  To: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
  Subject: Re: E-6B usage


  The FAA has no such requirment at all!

  I'm a private pilot and I own my own plane. During primary flight
training I was introduced to the E6B
  and found it quite fustrating to use. So I threw some money at the
problem and bought an electronic
  E6B from Sporty's Pilot Shop.

  This was APPROVED for use during the FAA written test, no questions asked.
During my checkride no questions were asked that needed any of the
calculations these things perform.

  And this was some 6 or 7 years back now. I can't guess when any
'requirment' was removed, but the Sporty's
  electronic E6B was pretty new at the time.

  Now of course all the E6B functions are built into most Loran and GPS
units, and I've not seen a student
  pilot laboring over a mechanical E6B in a long long time. I'm not even
sure if they still train pilots with them
  at all at the local flight school (FIT).

  J.C. Wren wrote:

        As far as I know, the FAA still requires students to know how to use
anE-6B, and they're still very readily available. I don't remember the
exactrules anymore since it's been sometime since I've flown, but you are
notpermitted to rely on a device that requires external power or
batteries,without a manual fallback system, since either or both may fail in
flight. There are a number of E-6B type computers out there, both mechanial
wheels,and electronic. Sportys sold a calculator like E-6B (I have one
still), andit's batteries like crazy. Some E-6B ares much classier than
others. Mineis a mid-range solid aluminum wheel. There are plastic ones,
hybrids, etc.Some are quite attractive, and I believe collected by some
people. --John-----Original Message-----From: cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin_at_classiccmp.org]OnBehalf Of Jeffrey SharpSent: Thursday,
June 13, 2002 11:21To: cctalk_at_classiccmp.orgSubject: Re: VERY good weekendOn
Wednesday, June 12, 2002, Don Maslin wrote: A Telex EB6 Dead Reckoning
Computer.Well, 1975 would make it a fairly late model since they were
commonly usedduring - and probably before - WWII.I think they are still in
use. I was in flight school about 5-6 years ago(didn't finish), and my
instructor had me using an E-6B every now and then.I bought mine brand new
from Sporty's Pilot Shop in 1996.BTW, one place I trained (Airman Flight
School in Norman, OK) is also oneplace where Zacarias Moussaoui trained. He
even seems to have opened a bankaccount and joined a gym here in Norman.
Freaky.--Jeffrey SharpThe email address lists_at_subatomix.com is for mailing
list traffic. Pleasesend off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp
subatomix beetle dot com.You may need to remove some bugs first.
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