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From: Christopher Smith <csmith_at_amdocs.com>
Date: Wed May 1 14:09:41 2002

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris [mailto:mythtech_at_mac.com]

> The wonderful bonus you have here with the Mac is... AppleTalk isn't
> passed by home internet routers or modems. So you can safely have the
> default settings of a home file/print sharing turned on on
> your Macs, and
> no one outside of your home network will know it is there.

Won't argue with that. In fact, that sounds like just what I was
saying. ;)

> This changes if you turn on AppleTalk over IP, but since that
> is off by
> default, you must explicitly set it when you turn on your
> filesharing. At
> that point, if you don't know what you are activating, you
> deserve what
> you get.

If you make changes to the configuration, as I said, it's likely
to get worse.

> Also, even if I run servers/services that DO interact with the
> internet... I am far less likely to be hacked simply by
> virtue of there
> is almost no one trying to hack the Mac servers. That isn't true with
> Windows and Unix where any 13yr old script kiddie can get
> tools to make
> attempts.

It's a trivial, but not obvious to an idiot, exercise to make those
"tools" work under Unix, too, and they become outdated very quickly.
If you're running a newer or older Unix than the "tool" is designed
to break, you'll likely have no problem there, either.

This whole part of the discussion might be irrelevant, though, since
nobody does anything interesting in that area any more. It's generally
"denial of service" crap, and mostly depends on saturating peoples'
network pipe, but what can you expect?

> I don't pretend that Mac internet servers are unhackable... just that
> people aren't making easy tools to try, so the script kiddies
> ignore them.

Possible. Just imagine how "safe" Amiga users are in that respect :)

> Much like Mac users being "immune" to viruses. We are FAR
> from immune...
> we just don't really see them because no one is interested in trying.

Wait 'till I get my Prime. ;)

> There are advantages to being a 5% market... small targets
> don't get hit
> often.

I certainly hope that changes. I could stand to see many people
replace their peesees with Macs.

Chris


Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL

/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
 
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