This seemed to not get thru a classic talk screening. Could you give me
reasons why this shouldn't have been posted ?
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From: Lawrence Walker <lgwalker_at_mts.net>
To: cctalk_at_classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF
Send reply to: lgwalker_at_mts.net
Date sent: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:12:23 -0600
No I think you're wrong here Sellam. He's more like genital lice. A parasite.
What is more interesting is that he had the audacity to try and discredit the
value of Michaels book on a list of classic computer enthusiasts. Michaels
contributions to the computer community go back to the days of Micro 80
and his
newsletter is a valued resource.
As is obvious this creep's main concern is making a buck off recent interest
in
older computers despite all the appeals to the higher virtues of his
contribution to blah, blah, blah. The usual tactic of a charlatan.
A while back an interesting poster to the list, a scrap dealer who could have
offerred us insight into the workings of that world was harassed off the list. I
viewed that as unfortunate but slime like this who selfservingly slag an info-
source valueable cause it might undermine their preying on unknowledgeable
collectors is beyond redemption.
Lawrence
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Mail List wrote:
>
> > How is it you feel you have a right to pass judgement on me?
>
> Because you're a dick.
>
> > No, I was concerned that the data sources might be incomplete and fail
> > to "conveniently" acknowledge the commercial market sector. You know,
> > that portion of the economy that is encumbered with real expenses ( like
> > marketing expenses, payroll, taxes, etc. ) and that provides jobs ( for
> > those that still have one ) and therefore has to charge prices for their
> > goods and services which allows them to meet those expenses and remain in
> > operation.
>
> Look, the book is called _Collectible *MICROCOMPUTERS*_. Sure the LSI-11 is a
> microcomputer, but that was conveniently left out. There is no pricing
> information for PDP stuff, so you can continue to ask whatever the hell you
> like for it.
>
> The prices in the book were based on a mixture of actual scarcity (i.e.
> supply), demand, gut feeling, and past sales, in that order. At least
> that is how I approached it when Michael consulted with me on the pricing. I
> can't speak for Michael, as he had final say as to how to value each machine
> since it was his book. I think he did a terrific job. The values are
> reasonable. The values are based on what a machine might go for in the real
> world, not what it would sell for on eBay if the seller was a dealer and had
> overhead such as taxes and marketing and payroll, etc.
>
> Since when does ANY value guide take this into account? You are now
> arguing for the sake of arguing. Just admin you're a dick and move on.
> We'll forget about you soon enough.
>
> > Don't lament when you're out of work, when you have
> > previously condemned that sector that provided you your jobs. Don't
> > lament when you see the value of your retirement accounts decline in
> > value when you condemn those companies that your very same account is
> > invested in, decline in value, as you complain about their prices ( no
> > competent fund manager invests funds in the average eBay seller ). This
> > thing called the economy is something we are all in together. Soil that
> > where you eat, and you may find the food no longer edible.
>
> Ok, George Bush, we'll allow you to attack Iraq just to get you to shut
> up.
>
> <violins>
>
> > You know, I used to believe that if everybody worked together, everybody
> > could see some benefit from that cooperative relationship, whether that be
> > parts you have a use for, or cash to buy parts you want, etc. There have
> > been times that I could have run something by you that would have helped you
> > out, but previous contact seemed to indicate that you were all about
> > yourself only. I have since given up. My impression was that you can't stand
> > to see anyone else realize any benefit from their contribution. You want it
> > all for yourself. So you have closed off those opportunities.
>
> </violins>
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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