Old Computer Magazines

From: ed sharpe <esharpe_at_uswest.net>
Date: Wed Aug 20 01:49:33 2003

this brings up an interesting point, as Harper's magazines from the 1870's
contain advertisements also...

also many early books did as well.... I think what there target is on is
CURRENT ADVERTISEMENTS, but it would be nice to have an official
clarification on this.

Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank McConnell" <fmc_at_reanimators.org>
To: <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Old Computer Magazines

> Vintage Computer Festival <vcf_at_siconic.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Al Kossow wrote:
> > > FWIW, you CANNOT ship these USPS media mail, since that
> > > rate cannot be used for any publication that contains
> > > advertizing.
> >
> > I've done it plenty of times with old magazines, and I don't have any
> > qualms with it because the ads are no longer current or even relevant.
> I think it's a goofy requirement too, but frankly it depends on your
> postal inspector(s). Maybe you've seen signs at the Post Office
> informing you that any USPS employee can open a package sent Media
> Mail and inspect the contents? I have, in Mountain View, California
> (deepest darkest Sillycon Valley).
> I don't know what happens if they open it up and find vintage computer
> magazines loaded with advertising, but "Media Mail can not contain
> advertising except for incidental announcements of books" (from
> <http://www.usps.com/send/waystosendmail/senditwithintheus/mediamail.htm>)
> and I'm not sure how the bureaucracy will interpret the 25-year-old
> advertisements in 25-year-old magazines, but it probably depends on
> how irritable its local rep is feeling that day. I expect that if
> they go after anyone it will be the shipper, as he's the paying
> customer.
> I'm pretty sure I've read posts over on rec.collecting.books by
> booksellers angsting over this. Maybe Al's run into that too.
> > Anyone who's ever shipped me old magazines has done it using Media Mail
> > and they've never had problems.
> The way you're probably supposed to do this (according to the
> bureaucracy) is Bound Printed Matter. But that has problems which
> recommend against it. First, parcel weight is limited to 15 pounds.
> Second, "Bound Printed Matter with no ancillary service endorsement
> that is undeliverable-as-addressed is disposed of by USPS." (from
> <http://pe.usps.gov/text/qsg/q720.htm>).
> -Frank McConnell
Received on Wed Aug 20 2003 - 01:49:33 BST

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