Building a PDP-11 for the first time

From: Megan <mbg_at_TheWorld.com>
Date: Sun Dec 14 13:01:16 2003

>V5.05 of RT-11 which was released in October 1989. As for the
>real advantage of the PDP-11/93, with all 4 MBytes of memory
>on board and 8 serial ports, it effectively replaced 4 quad slots
>with just ONE quad slot.

And, with the memory on-board, it is almost (though not quite) like
having all of main memory cached, since it probably doesn't require
the same bus accessing/sequencing as other memory.

>What Megan Gentry has stated is correct, although I note that the letter
>"A" is present when the dual M8192-A boards are used. Also, I am not

You're right... I just checked the source for RESORC and found it...

>(b) The different rev levels for the J11 CPU chip were
>needed due to reasons which only DEC might wish to
>reveal, but some reliable stories are spoken of a bug
>with the floating point instructions using early rev levels
>with the KDJ11-BF and the 18 MHz clock speed.
>In addition, since the PDP-11/93 CPU boards were
>run at 20 MHz, these PDP-11/93 boards probably
>required a specific rev level as well?

In fact, I have taken a KDJ11-B board with an 18Mhz clock,
removed the clock chip and replaced it with a 20Mhz clock
and the system ran solidly (I still have it). It also
correctly identifies, in the boot rom, that the machine has
a 20Mhz clock...

>(c) I have also heard rumours that DEC (or a contract
>company) developed a much faster CPU, but it was never
>brought to market - possibly due to perceived competition
>against the MicroVAX II systems. A company by the name
>of Harris was mentioned in the mid 1980s.

There were rumors of the 11/74 being killed because it
was faster than the soon to be released 11/780... but
again, that was rumors, I certainly was not privvy to
the performance numbers...

>Can Megan Gentry provide any information about a floating
>point bug for the KDJ11-BF? Also any information about
>the different rev levels of the J11 CPU chip? Or does anyone
>else know of the reasons for the different rev levels of the
>J11 chip, let alone what specific changes were made?

I don't have specific information about an FP bug... I remember
that some boards couldn't have the FPA installed due to some
bug but don't have the specifics.

>With reference to your luck about putting the parts
>of a PDP-11/84 together with the correct memory,
>perhaps you had some help or maybe the memory
>was already inside the backplane. After all, it could
>not have been used anywhere else, so it might well
>have been just left in the backplane and been there
>when you "grabbed parts".

Nope, I would have been the one who did it, alone, since
I was the recognized scrounge for the group... I was always
checking the halls in the mill for parts discarded from
other groups...

>Also, can you provide any insight as to why DEC
>stopped development on PDP-11 CPUs when
>other companies provided faster CPU chips much
>later than when DEC stopped?

I don't have any hard info on that... the powers-that-be probably
decided that strategically they wanted VAX...

Heck, at least 2, and maybe three managers of the RT-11 group seemed
tasked with the responsibility to bring RT development to a close (as
early as 1984 or so) and we lasted until 1992. (At the end, we were
doing work on both the tail end of RT-11 V5.6 and ramping up on
working on Ultrix 4.2)

                                        Megan Gentry
                                        Former RT-11 Developer

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