Grandfather system RTE6/VM?

From: Jay West <jwest_at_classiccmp.org>
Date: Fri Nov 21 20:30:56 2003

it's a museum!!! Emulate hardware for display?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Shannon" <bshannon_at_tiac.net>
To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>; "General Discussion: On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?


> The 2883 would be an ideal drive to replace by hardware emulation!
>
>
> ed sharpe wrote:
>
> >you will have to bring a 2883 disc drive though... we are missing ours!
> >
> >I can see it now... Hi Flight attendant... I want to carry on this 500
lb.
> >disk drive...
> >
> >ed!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jay West" <jwest_at_classiccmp.org>
> >To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>; "General Discussion: On-Topic and
> >Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:03 PM
> >Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >
> >
> >>Ed;
> >>
> >>I get the impression that the 2000Access system you have "under glass"
> >>
> >isn't
> >
> >>running. Shipping parts around might be expensive... buy me a plane
ticket
> >>and I'll come out there and get it running for you. SOO much nicer to
show
> >>
> >a
> >
> >>running system :)
> >>
> >>Jay West
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>
> >>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> >><cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:11 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>
> >>
> >>>no one ever touched the inside of that unit except me, but... yes
when
> >>>
> >I
> >
> >>>am in the giant glass display case I can check! yep... hp under glass!
a
> >>>sight to behold!
> >>>
> >>>ed!
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Jay West" <jwest_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>; "General Discussion: On-Topic and
> >>>Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:25 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Yes, you have to pop them out to put them in a prom reader. However,
> >>>>
> >>>that's
> >>>
> >>>>not what I was asking. I was merely asking if you were positive you
> >>>>
> >had
> >
> >>>>them, via visual inspection, so we knew there were at least two sets
> >>>>
> >in
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>world rather than my one set :) Someone could have pulled them out
> >>>>
> >years
> >
> >>>>ago, that's why I was asking for a visual check to be really sure they
> >>>>
> >>>were
> >>>
> >>>>present in your system.
> >>>>
> >>>>Jay West
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>
> >>>>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> >>>><cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:20 PM
> >>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>no you have to pop them out to put them in a prom reader!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I know they are there... the system would not have worked as an
> >>>>>
> >access
> >
> >>>>>system had they not!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>we need a set of hardware manuals for the 2100... it seems though
> >>>>>
> >the
> >
> >>>>>passing of the years the old ones I had at computer exchange Inc.
> >>>>>
> >>let
> >>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>>earth...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I DID find though the 2100 hardware training manual # 02100-90159
> >>>>>
> >>>while
> >>>
> >>>>>looking at home here for the infamous DEC master Module List....
> >>>>>
> >>When
> >>
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>>>retired I squirreled bits of manuals all over where I live... Most
> >>>>>
> >>have
> >>
> >>>>>been added to the museum's reference library but it seems every time
> >>>>>
> >I
> >
> >>>go
> >>>
> >>>>>digging I find something.new I know the 2100 processor manuals are
> >>>>>
> >>gone
> >>
> >>>>>though as they were in the HP binders.... kind of hard to loose
> >>>>>
> >>those!
> >>
> >>>>>ed sharpe archivist for smecc
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Jay West" <jwest_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>To: <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 7:09 PM
> >>>>>Subject: Fw: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>From: "Jay West" <jwest_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>>To: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>
> >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:08 PM
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>You don't have to pop out the chips, just pull out the rom card,
> >>>>>>>
> >>A1
> >>
> >>>or
> >>>
> >>>>>A2,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>think it's A2 going from memory. Look at the card and see what
> >>>>>>>
> >>>numbers
> >>>
> >>>>>are
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>on the white and gold chips that are socketed :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>J
> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>From: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>
> >>>>>>>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only"
> >>>>>>>
> >>><cctech_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>Cc: <jwest_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:31 PM
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>well I have the set that is in the 2100 in the 2000 access
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>system
> >>>
> >>>>>>here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>not a loose set. ( shall we call it embedded?)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I would live in fear of poping them out though......
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>ed!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>From: "Jay West" <jwest_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>>>>To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>; "General Discussion:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>On-Topic
> >>>
> >>>>>and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:07 PM
> >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>You're quite sure you have a set of the IOP firmware for the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>2100
> >>>
> >>>>>cpus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ed?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>If so, good to know. I really want to get mine backed up as
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>they
> >>
> >>>>>seem
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>be
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>the only ones around. However, I got a new prom burner and
> >>>>>>>>>
> >it
> >
> >>is
> >>
> >>>>>>acting
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>very
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>flaky so I'm a little afraid to put my chips in it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Jay
> >>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe_at_uswest.net>
> >>>>>>>>>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> >>>>>>>>><cctalk_at_classiccmp.org>; <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:16 PM
> >>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>we have a set too Al, but alas no way to read them....
> >>>>>>>>>>It is up to you Jay!
> >>>>>>>>>>ed!
> >>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>>From: "Al Kossow" <aek_at_spies.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>To: <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:54 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I'll try to dump the microcode proms this weekend
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Dumps of the firmware is now up at
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>www.bitsavers.org/HP/1000_firmware
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>including the IOP firmware the 21MX.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Jay, since you appear to have the only surviving copy of
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>>2100
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>IOP
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>firmware, it would be good to get the proms read.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>
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