Possible List Downtime

From: evan <evan947_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Jan 28 11:36:39 2005

I can think of a few messages from OTHER people that I'd like you to remove.

--- Jay West <jwest_at_classiccmp.org> wrote:

> There is a chance (homelife schedule permitting) that I will be moving the
> drives from the temp classiccmp server to the new (old) classiccmp server
> this weekend. If I do get around to it, it would be during the day -
> slightly more likely sunday than saturday. Then again, I may not get to it
> at all this weekend. We'll see. Wanted to give a heads up in any case.
> When I do this, the list will be down for an hour or so if all goes well. If
> it doesn't go well.... could be much longer :)
> Bear in mind a few things:
> 1) There WILL be bumps. There is at least 63 separate software packages that
> are installed & configured on the server that provides the classiccmp
> services. You can bet that I (and YOU) will find snags and things will be
> broken for a bit (days or weeks afterwards, depending on urgency and my
> ability to fix). Some of the packages have been tested thoroughly, some of
> them I simply cant really test until they go live. You can expect some
> problems.
> 2) When I moved subscriber lists from the old server to the new server a few
> weeks ago, there is one setting that mailman doesn't migrate with subscriber
> export/import - the "no mail" flag that many of you use. So if you subscribe
> to both lists (silly) or have your account temporarily set to "no mail"
> you'll start getting mail to both until you go back and set your no mail
> flag. I'm not going through 1000 accounts individually by hand to preserve
> the nomail flag.
> 3) Mailman also doesn't transfer passwords it would appear. I will try to
> remember to force mailman to send out a password reminder after the upgrade,
> so hopefully you'll get your mailman password sent via email. I may forget
> to do this, I'm a forgetfull guy. Give me a shout if you get stuck.
> 4) There are a lot of classic computer related websites that I host on the
> classiccmp server for people at no charge. It is entirely likely that during
> this time period of being "half on one server, half on another"... that
> files & content you put on your website went to the wrong server and you'd
> notice it after the switch. If so, give me a shout and I'll get the content
> fixed for you. If the files are on one of the two servers, it's a lot faster
> for me to copy them than for you to reupload them. The "old" drive will be
> put up in a different machine on the same network, so I will be able to copy
> stuff easily that got stranded. Keep your shirt on. See #1 above.
> 5) Many chunks of the archives have been located on the drive. However, I am
> sure there are holes of missing posts. This really torques me off. Someone
> who did list maintenance before me had moved the defacto copy of the list
> archives into a different spot on the server and I didn't realize they were
> in an area I routinely mess up and later clean up. It's possible I deleted
> them, but in any case I can't find them. Again, many of them have been
> located but not all. After I finish the server drive migration, I will be
> regenning all the html archives from scratch - going against the original
> mbox files. If there's any posts in the archives that you want me to remove
> (from time to time someone posts their home address by mistake, etc etc.)
> now is the time to let me know and I'll clean the archives. After the
> archives are completely reassembled, you can be damn sure I will be copying
> them to DVD and sticking a copy in my vault off-site.
> 6) The newer version of mailman has a pretty much revamped logic for
> handling bounces and automatic subscription disables due to bounces. It will
> be interesting to see how that part works.
> Regards,
> Jay West
Received on Fri Jan 28 2005 - 11:36:39 GMT

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