Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-11 Recognition
Introduction
The
DEC
(Digital Equipment Corportation)
PDP-11
is now a favourite with vintage computer enthusiasts, for several
reasons:
- It was a very influential machine
- A wide range of models is available, suitable for different levels of enthusiast
- It was produced for many years (ca. 1970-1990s), and they are still relatively easy to find
- A lot of good software (including
Unix)
is available for it
- It is simple, yet flexible and powerful
Some are still showing up at scrappers, and this page is an attempt to make
it easy for the operators of such places to recognize PDP-11's - almost all
of which are worth more, as vintage computers, than as scrap. (You can click
on essentially all the images below to see a larger version.)
Note:
DO NOT just keep the boards, and discard the box, bulkhead
panels, cables, etc. Everyone does that, as a result of which
we are now over-supplied with boards - but the cables, boxes etc are
now rare (un-obtainium in some cases, such as UNIBUS and RL0x cables). These
are all now worth a lot more than the cards are!
The tables below include a rough idea of the value, based in most
cases on recent sales history. Ones which are pure guesses are marked with a
'?'. However, don't put too much stock in these numbers: a number of factors
will cause them to vary considerably from the numbers given here:
- Exactly which peripherals and memory are included
- Condition
- The whims of collecting fashion, and who shows up for the auction
The first can have a large effect; inclusion of a large tape drive and some
large disk drive (each fairly valuable in their own right) can have a big
upward impact on the value.
To illustrate these factors at work, I have seen a PDP-11/70 with magtape and
MK11 memory system in two 6' DEC racks go for over US$10K on eBay when a
number of high-end collectors went for it; and as an example of the
importance of the last factor, I heard of one collector from the UK who was
arranging to fly to the US to arrange shipping back to the on a PDP-11/40 in
a 6' DEC rack - only to be outbid by another collector at $10K!
Racks
The reason this section is first is that some models are to be met in both
rack and table-top forms - so in the pictures of the various models in the
next sections, realize that they may also appear in a rack, not just as the
smaller unit shown. For most, the mounting boxes were originally mounted in
racks, in slides (see below).
PDP-11's come in a variety of different mounting racks (all usually the
standard 19 inches wide, although some have a side-bay which increases the
width). Some of the racks (e.g. the H960's, below) are from DEC, and are the
racks many PDP-11's came in originally, and are thus now rare and
desirable, and thus valuable in their own right.
There are a whole line of accessories for the H960 series, many of which are
also now rare, and thus valuable. The top picture shows a rack with one of
them - the pink and purple plastic 'advertising panel' at the top (panels
with other colour scheme are also to be met with, and are also desirable).
Pictures of some other items are shown below.
In addition to the items shown, there are also rear full-height swing-out
frames (just a plain rectangle, made of square cross-section tubing) for the
H960, which are now quite rare.
Also, rack-mounted units (not just CPUs, but also disk drives, etc) were
usually rack-mounted on slides; these come in an 'outer' (mechanically
attached to the rack), and an 'inner' (mechanically attached to the unit).
When many systems were taken apart, people just slid the units out, and
usually didn't bother dismounting the outers and putting them back with the
inners, so the outers as also now hard to find, and thus of value.
Image |
Model |
Size |
Value |
Comments |
|
H960 |
72" H x 22" W x 30" D |
$200-500 |
The original PDP-11 cabinet, now the most sought-after. If it has any of
the original accessories (sides, back door, extension feet on the front,
the logo panel at the top, and blank panels on the front), each of those
will add to the value. (Technically, the bare frame is an H950; 'H960'
refers to the complete unit, including the accessories.)
|
|
H960 side panel |
72" H x 30" W x 1/2" D |
$50-$150? |
Side panels are somewhat rare because when a number of racks are
joined together, all the intermediate racks don't have side panels.
The image shows the inside face; the outside is totally flat. |
|
H960 rear door |
72" H x 20" W x 1/2" D |
$50-$150? |
Rear doors are also rare, although the reason is not obvious;
perhaps they just got in the way? This image too shows the inside face;
the outside is also totally flat. |
|
H960 filler strip |
72" H x 1" W x 2x" D |
$50-$150? |
Filler strips are used in pairs between each pair of racks;
they are cruciform in cross-section (see right-hand image). Very
rare. |
|
H960 stabilizer feet |
2" H x 2" W x 8" D (each side) |
$50-$150? (each) |
These are not just decorative; when units in the rack are slid
out, it will topple forward without them. As castings, they will
be hard to reproduce. There is also a kick-plate running between
the two. |
|
Full blank front panel |
10-1/2" H x 19" W x 1" D |
$20-50 |
The front of the rack has blank panels to fill empty spaces where
equipment is not mounted. These are also much in demand. |
|
Half blank front panel |
5-1/4" H x 19" W x 1" D |
$20-50 |
Even though they are half the size of the full panels, they are
worth the same since they are currently rarer. |
|
Logo panel |
4" H x 20" W x 2" D |
$40-50 (blank) $80-150 (lettered) |
These go at the top of the rack; in addition to the one with
lettering (shown), there are also blank ones, with just the two color
blocks. In addition the PDP-11 ones, shown here, there are ones for
other DEC computers, in different colors. |
UNIBUS PDP-11's
All the early -11's were based around a bus called the
UNIBUS;
these machines are grouped together because they are (mostly) the largest,
oldest, and most valuable of the PDP-11's.
Almost all the UNIBUS PDP-11's all had distinctive
front consoles
which were an integral part of the CPU (and thus could not be changed),
enabling them to be identified at a glance purely externally. The only
exceptions are the 11/84 and 11/94; an /84 could be upgraded to a /94 by
swapping the CPU card.
It is not uncommon to find PDP-11's with custom printing on the front panel,
produced by both DEC and OEMs. The thing to look at is the configuration of
the switches (and knobs, if any): this never varies, from model to model
(although on occasion one finds custom switch colours too).
Image |
Model |
Year of Introduction |
Value |
Comments |
|
11/20 - 11/15 |
1970 |
$2-3K |
The original PDP-11, now one of the most sought-after. The 11/20 and 11/15
are very slightly different, but are basically the same machine. |
|
11/05 - 11/10 |
1971 |
$1-2K |
The 11/05 and 11/10 are the same machine; the latter is a re-badged
version for the OEM market, instead of end-users, differening only in the
number painted on the front panel.
They are to be found in both 10-1/2" high (as here) and 5-1/4" high boxes.
|
|
11/45 - 11/50 - 11/55 |
1971 |
$4K |
These are all basically the same machine, differing only in
the kind, and amount, of memory they were supplied with (and the number
painted on the inlay of the front console). The CPU is identical in all
three. |
|
11/35 - 11/40 |
1973 |
$4K-$5K+ |
The 11/35 and 11/40 again are the exact same CPU, differing only in the
number on the front panel, and usually the box they are in
(10-1/2" for the /35, and 21" for the /40 (although that's not a
hard-and-fast rule, exceptions have been seen). The former is a re-badged
version for the OEM market, instead of end-users. |
|
11/70 |
1975 |
up to $10K+ |
The largest PDP-11, and the last with a full switch panel. DEC produced
them with both the blue colouration (shown here) and the red/purple colour
scheme of the other PDP-11's (above).
(Later 11/70s often had a remote diagnostic console, which omits the lights
and switches, and are thus worth considerably less.) |
|
11/04 |
1975 |
$1K |
Both the 11/04 and 11/34 (following) may come with either the
programmer's console (shown below on the 11/34) or the 'normal' console
(shown here); the two are otherwise externally visually identical.
These too are to be found in both 10-1/2" high and 5-1/4"
high boxes. |
|
11/34 |
1976 |
$1K |
Either the 11/04 or the 11/34 can appear with this console; the
programmer's console is much more desirable than the normal
console, and will add several hundred US$ to the value. The
consoles only differ in the number printed on them.
Probably the most common PDP-11; again, to be found in both 10-1/2" high
and 5-1/4" high boxes, although usually the former. |
|
11/60 |
1977 |
$6K? |
An extremely rare (and desirable) -11; the rarest of the UNIBUS
PDP-11s.
(The image is of the front console only, not the entire machine;
nonetheless, all PDP-11/60's will contain this panel, making them
easy to identify.) |
|
11/44 |
1980 |
$1-2K |
The last of the 'pure UNIBUS' PDP-11's. |
|
11/24 |
1981 |
$700-1K |
A UNIBUS version of the -11/23. Found in both 5-1/4" and 10-1/2"
boxes. |
|
11/84 |
1985 |
$1K |
This has a QBUS PDP-11 KDJ11-B CPU board (see below) hiding inside
it. |
Image coming |
11/94 |
1990 |
$4K |
Also had a QBUS PDP-11 (a KDJ11-E) hiding inside it. This is the last
PDP-11. |
QBUS PDP-11's
DEC later introduced a cost-reduced bus called the
QBUS;
a number of later PDP-11's were built for it.
Unlike the UNIBUS CPUs, the QBUS CPUs did not have an integral front console,
so there's no external clue to tell you what kind of QBUS PDP-11 one has. To
make things worse, all QBUS PDP-11 CPU's are a single card, and they are
(basically) plug-compatible. So sometimes a box initially shipped as one kind
of QBUS PDP-11 (e.g. an -11/23) was later upgraded to something else by
swapping out the CPU card.
So the only definitive way to know which kind of QBUS machine one has
is to examine the CPU card. However, it's not really necessary to do that -
all the QBUS machines are worth roughly the same, so if one can tell that one
has a QBUS PDP-11, one knows roughly how much it is worth. The one exception
is the -11/93, which is very rare, and worth a lot more than any of the
others.
An additional complication, for the QBUS PDP-11's, is that companies other
than DEC made the boxes for them. The most common is Sigma Systems, but there
are several others, including Plessey.
So the tables below show first the PDP-11 CPU cards (prices given are for the
CPU card alone), and then the various DEC QBUS boxes. (Other manufacturers
made memory, I/O cards, etc, but basically only DEC made CPUs - until after
they sold the PDP-11 line off to a company called Mentec.)
Image |
Model |
Date of Introduction |
Value |
Comments |
|
LSI-11 |
1975 |
$100 |
The original QBUS PDP-11; limited memory, and cannot run most
time-sharing PDP-11 operating systems; valuable only for its
historic nature. Several models exist, with and without on-board
memory, etc. |
|
LSI-11/2 |
1975 |
$100 |
The same CPU chips as the board above, but in a dual-width card
without anything else on it. |
|
11/23 (KDF11-A) |
1979 |
$75 |
Probably the most common QBUS PDP-11. The basic version has one
large plug-in chip, more advanced models have a second (as here), and
possibly a third, each with a slight ($25) increment in value. |
|
11/23-PLUS (KDF11-B) |
1979 |
$150 |
The same CPU chips as the one above, but packaged with several
serial lines, ROM, etc. |
|
KEF11-B Commercial Instruction Set option chip |
1979 |
$200 |
A very rare option chip for the two boards above, but usually only
seen on the second type; of considerable value by itself. |
|
11/73 (KDJ11-A) |
1983 |
$100 |
The power of a PDP-11/70 in a much smaller, and cheaper, box. |
|
11/83 (KDJ11-B) |
1985 |
$250 |
The CPU from the QBUS-only equivalent to the 11/84. Note the large chip
in the upper right; this is the the FPJ11 floating point accelerator. This
is again very rare, and of considerable value on its own; occasionally seen
on the board above, too. |
|
11/93 (KDJ11-E) |
1990 |
$2-3K |
The CPU from the QBUS-only equivalent to the 11/94. |
As mentioned above, these are some of the boxes in which QBUS PDP-11's
are to be found:
Image |
Model |
Date of Introduction |
Value |
Comments |
Image coming |
BA11-M |
19xx |
$200 |
The original QBUS mounting box. |
|
BA11-N and BA11-S |
19xx |
$100 |
These two mounting boxes are almost identical (modulo various appliques
on the front panel), and differ only in the power supply and backplane
inside. The -N has an H786 Power Supply; the -S has the slightly more
powerful H7861. The backplane in the -N is the H9273; that in the
H9276. |
Image coming |
BA23 |
19xx |
|
|
Image coming |
BA123 |
19xx |
|
|
Image coming |
BA213 |
19xx |
|
|
PDP-11 boards
All PDP-11 boards are, in physical form, variants of the 'single-width'
card below:
They come in dual- and quad-width form (seen above, with the various QBUS
processors), and also hex-width. The key thing to note is the configuration
of the gold-plated contact fingers on the edge; anything with this physical
form is almost certainly a DEC card. (They also used them in machines other
than the PDP-11, such as the PDP-8, PDP-10 and PDP-15.) In the dual and
larger cards, note also the size and shape (with the keying cutout) of the
gap between the contact groups; these are also a 'fingerprint' for DEC cards.
The value will vary tremendously, depending on their desirability
(demand) and rareness (supply). To find out the value, one need to know the
board's module ID, which is usually printed on the metal or plastic insertion
handles. (DEC produced thousands of board types, and so knowing the module ID
is crucial to knowing the value.) This ID will have the form YXXX or YXXXX,
where 'Y' is a letter (most often 'M' or 'G', but others are to be found
too), and 'X' is a digit. Other numbers can often be found in the etch, but
these are usually DEC internal part numbers for the bare board, and are
usually useless for looking them up. Find the module ID (XYYYY).
These number are given on the plastic insertion handles, as shown:
and similarly on one of the tabs of the metal insertion handles (exactly which
one varies from board to board):
The older boards will usually say "FLIP CHIP" on them somewhere; this
was a DEC trademark, and thus will appear only on real DEC gear. Later
boards tended to drop this, but they often contain the 'Digital' logo:
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