Enrico:
You are absolutely right.... this is not a private matter any more. I have been
biting my tonge reading all of your BS thus far. Why, because I am a greater man than
you. Second, this list is clearly not the place for such a stupid discussion in the
first place. Third, it is funny as hell for me to sit here and read this crap. But, I
can only take so much slander before I, too, and compelled to write publically for
the world to see:
Enrico, and the world.... I AM NOT A CON MAN! I am a 22 year old full-time college
student with a ten month old baby and two step-children aged 6 and 3. I happen to
enjoy collecting computers, and I also collect autographs. I have never intentionally
deceived anyone in my life. There is no reason to.
Enrico, your story is a very special case. You originally requested, as you stated
correctly and honestly, the very first TRS-80 computer made. I piped up (regret), and
said, "Hey, Enrico... I have a spare TRS-80 Model 1 that I would ship thousands of
miles to you to add to your collection." We then talked about a trade... ended up
being you would send me an MSX computer (which I had been actively looking for on the
list and elsewhere) in return for the Model 1. Then I gave you the specs on it, and
you gave me the specs on the MSX. We both said, yeh-- great deal! Let's ship at the
same time.
We both shipped in the same week... via sea - no air-mail crap, too expensive. After
about a month or two, I started checking with Enrico to see if he had received his
yet. Hell, I had no idea how long it world take.. first international transaction.
No, no, and no came the reply. Months later I got his in the mail. I let Enrico know
this. Still he hadn't got mine. Finally, because I had stupidly checked the box that
said return to sender if undeliverable, I received my original package back, with
another $40 bill attached. The box was bent, tattered, and torn. I grabbed a box from
my stash... it was Enrico's that he sent mine MSX in, but who gives a $h1+???? I mean
come on! I shipped it out again: now I have just over $100 invested in this stupid
trade, errr... the MSX.
I then get time to power up the ol' MSX. Damn thing doesn't even work. I have correct
power, video, and everything else. Light came on the first day, no video, no nothing,
though. It then died on me completely. I open it up. Now, this is a shocker. Severed
wires and shit. Great. I didn't even mention this raw end of the deal to Enrico or
anyone else. Why? Because I am more mature than to bitch about something that I
probably am not going to me able to do anything about. Who knows, maybe it happened
in transit or something... at least I had the MSX that maybe could be fixed sometime.
Ever since Enrico got his damn Model 1, he has been bitching to me and to the list.
He has threatened to take me to some international court, he has threatened to
slander my name on this list, his webpage, the newsgroups, and everywhere else in the
world. His latest ploy was leaving negative feedback on Ebay about the transaction.
Hell, Enricia, if you can't even remember this wasn't an E-bay transaction, how in
the hell can you remember what we originally agreed upon.
So, I thought - well, I'm a nice guy... maybe I did misunderstand in the first place.
I can admit my faults when they are true. I said, hey Enrico, let's make this right,
no matter who was at fault. How about we just pay our own expenses and swap back.
Negate the whole transaction. Enrico says no. Ok, let me find a machine with no
keypad on it, ok? He basically replies,"no, I know you have one there you conman." I
say, no I don't Enrico but let me check around and if I can find one I'll pay and
send it out to you. I looked and have yet to find anything in my area: rural
Nebraska. If any of you have one, would you please send it to me so I can ship it to
Enricia Swavey over there?
Anyway, that is basically the gist of the story. It is stupid, completely and
totally. No matter what I have done, or haven't done, he insists on being a complete
ass to me. If he turns down offers I have made
to make it right, how can he expect me to make it better?!?! About every week he
would right and saw, "Cord -- fix my problem or you will pay." Ok, Enrico.
Now, that is all I am publically going to say. Enrico, go ahead and blast of
slanderous insults with no basis to any of it. I personally don't care. I enjoy
reading them. But, everyone else on the list is completely tired of this crap. Take
it up with me in private e-mail to discuss it further. Or, come beat me up. I don't
care. I'm not a con man, never have been, never will be. I have a very large customer
base that I deal in 8-bits with. But, if you insist, and to prove I really don't
care:
TO EVERYONE ON THE DAMN LIST -- YES, I AM A GREAT BIT FAT MEANY-HEAD!!
There, are you happy, Enricia?? I hope so, because I am too. It is so much fun poking
fun at you. Maybe it's just the way you 'sound' in your e-mails, but I find it
completely hilarious. I haven't done anything wrong, and I have even tried to 'fix' I
have done honestly and with your approval after the fact.
Now, what is it you want from me, Enrica?
That is all I have to say. Please e-mail me PRIVATELY if any of you (including
Enraciaow) would like to discuss this further. Hum?? Maybe we should start fan clubs
or something. You know take sides, make me sorry I am such a con-man, drive me into
the very earth I stand on.....
That's all... forever!!
Sincerely, oh... Ciao'
CORD "Con-Man" COSLOR
ARCHIVE SOFTWARE
PO BOX 308
PERU, NE 68421
p.s. After re-reading Enrico's tale, just a couple more comments: Yes, all along I
did have a receipt for the sent parcel. And yes, I did have the receipt of the
complaint filed with the PO. I told you from the start I had to re-send the parcel,
and that I used your damn box. I wasn't trying to hide anything. But, yes, I am a
con-man. You know why? That is what I am going to use in every one of my signature
lines. Seriously, big boy!!
Enrico Tedeschi wrote:
> It is not what you think:
>
> 1) he sent the wrong computer ad I CLEARLY SPECIFIED that I wanted the VERY
> FIRST TRS-80 model ever made and he knows this and that is why he is so
> vehement in his replies.
>
> 2) he said that he sent his parcel at the same time I did, but he did not send
> it until he got mine and even that took some convincement from me (he
> strangely could not find any receipt of his sent parcel and not even a receipt
> for the complaint he says he logged with the Post Office: what a
> coincidence!). To conceal this he told me that he had the parcel returned from
> the Post office but I can prove that he only packed it AFTER he received mine
> (he even used MY PACKING to send his computer to me and he even went into
> great lenghts to build himself same sort of alibi by enclosing inside a letter
> pre-dated at the time of our agreement but the post office date on the package
> gave away his lies).
> I have kept the owner of the list informed at all times and he can vouch for
> all this and I keep all the proves including his e-mails which say that he was
> happy with the computer I sent and he was thanking me while now, in the
> tentative to divert the matter away from him he says that the computer I sent
> does not work and he is not happy with it.
>
> 3)The computer he sent is a wreck with a broken case, bits missing etc.
>
> He is a CONMAN and he knows it and that is why he is refusing to discuss the
> matter. I even offered to pay again to dispatch for the right computer as it
> would be uneconomical for me and for him to return both the computers back to
> the source (I spend more than ?40.00 to send mine).
>
> There you are. I hope I have explained myself. This is not a private matter
> anymore: if he is so determined to con somebody who, he thinks that being so
> far away, cannot rehiterate, he might then decide to step up his career and
> strike locally.
>
> Thank you for your interest anyway.
>
> Ciao
>
> enrico
>
> Frank McConnell wrote:
> >
> > Enrico Tedeschi <e.tedeschi_at_ndirect.co.uk> wrote:
> > >I can't believe that all this is happening and that there are no honest people
> > >in this list that are letting this happen withour saying anything.
> >
> > OK Enrico, you asked for it. I'm going to say something.
> >
> > The recollection I have of what happened (from reading the original
> > flamefest on the list) is that you and Cord were swapping computers,
> > with you expecting a TRS-80 with Level I BASIC. And that is what you
> > got, only when you got it you found that it had a numeric keypad,
> > unlike the original stock TRS-80. So...no, I don't understand what
> > you're so upset about, except that you got something that didn't look
> > like what you expected based on your preconceived notions of what a
> > "TRS-80 with Level I BASIC" should look like.
> >
> > Well, as it happens I don't know whether Radio Shack ever took to
> > manufacturing all Model 1 TRS-80s with numeric keypads after some
> > date, or whether the numeric keypad was included with the Level II
> > BASIC upgrade (don't think so, at least not always), or whether it was
> > available without a Level II BASIC upgrade. So I'd have been
> > surprised by that keypad too, but for all I know it could have come
> > from the factory like that or been upgraded by its original owner, who
> > wanted to do lots of numeric data entry on a Level I BASIC system.
> >
> > Really I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here, namely
> > when trading in old computers it's a good idea to do some research and
> > have some idea what the scope of possible configurations is, so that
> > if you are buying you will have some idea what sort of questions to
> > ask to find out just what the seller is selling. Or if you are
> > selling, so you will have some idea of what you are selling.
> >
> > Don't count on the seller knowing what's important to you, or even
> > where what he's got fits in that scope of configurations -- he may
> > not. Even if he's another computer collector and/or familiar with
> > that manufacturer's equipment, he may not know -- the sorts of
> > questions I read (and even some of those I write) tell me that most of
> > us have a lot to learn about these old machines, and none of us know
> > everything about all of them.
> >
> > And even with all that in mind, expect some surprises!
> >
> > For example, a while back I bought a couple of HP 9825s from some guy
> > in Southern California. Looking at the HP Calculator Museum web pages
> > and some of my old HP test/measurement catalogs, I expected that one
> > of them (the 9825B I think) would have a "computer" keyboard with
> > full-travel keys. I didn't bother asking. Surprise, when it arrived
> > both had the older clicky desktop-calculator keyboard of the 9825A. I
> > pointed this out to the seller and he didn't know, though he has seen
> > 9825s with the full-travel keys. Maybe it was an A that got
> > field-upgraded to a B? We don't know, and I didn't really see any
> > point in getting bent out of shape about it -- I got what I wanted,
> > learned something, and now I have a good excuse to get another one!
> >
> > -Frank McConnell
>
> --
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> Enrico Tedeschi, 54 Easthill Drive, Brighton BN41 2FD, UK
> Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile)
> please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com>
> ========================================================
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Received on Sat Apr 11 1998 - 22:29:11 BST