disk equals license

From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch_at_northernway.net>
Date: Thu Feb 12 11:44:06 1998

;-) Clearing the snow from my glasses, I saw John Foust typed:
>John Higginbotham <higginbo_at_netpath.net> wrote:
>>If I then came across a higher version for that
>>product and it was cheaper if you already owned a previous version (say it
>>takes the older version disk to upgrade to newer, then I'd expect to pay
>>the cheaper price, because it is upgrading the program found on my original
>>set of install disks, that I rightfully own.
>You might hope to pay the lower upgrade price, but Autodesk will surely
>tell you that you have someone else's copy, and without a letter of transfer,
>they won't sell you an upgrade. Or if the copy had already been upgraded,
>they'll transfer you to their anti-piracy department.

Yes, but to own a version upgrade versus an actual standalone product, you
*must* keep the original version. If you own V9, and upgrade to
V10/11/12/13/14 on that basis, you cannot toss your V9 media -- or you are
chucking the license that allows you to own just the upgrade and not the
real thing.

Methinks Autodesk's anti-piracy department would set up a conference call
between them, you and the folks who threw away the older media, because the
company doing the pitching is wrong as well, for without proof of the
original, they have essentially pirated the upgrade version.

>>I look at it this way: If someone throws away the disks, they are giving up
>>their license to use the product.
>Not if they upgraded. It may seem ridiculous of me to pretend for the sake
>of argument that these disks came from a dumpster, but that's in fact the
>way a lot of us collectors get our stuff. :-)

You're both right, in a way.

John H.: Chuck the disks, give up license. Yup.
John F.: The upgrade disks require a license to previous software -- you
now essentially have two linked licenses - you cannot legally give up 1/2
of that license, so: "Don't throw the original media away." - to do so
could be asking for trouble.

So here's a question: Let's say you find dox & stuff for Lotus V.2 in the
dumpster, but with only the original disk 1 of the 3-disk set (IIRC). Do
you in fact have the license, or not. Is the license bound to *all* of the

If this is the case, then that version of Autocad cannot be split. To xfer
the license, you need to xfer *all* the media involved - to throw away half
would be wrong, the way it seems to me.

Just my $0.00000000002 (that's what it's worth, anyway... ;-)
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
Roger Merchberger       | If at first you don't succeed,
Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not*
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Received on Thu Feb 12 1998 - 11:44:06 GMT

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