Thanks. Actually, my school just got rid of a lab full of eduquests
to another school, and we still have one of them in the basement.
These seem like OK machines, though never tried to use them. They're
like PS/2 Model 25s only bigger. They have microphone and headphone
jacks on the front, along with a floppy drive. They're all 486s with
16 MB RAM, IIRC. What was wrong with these?
>
>Never in the 17 years I've been involved in educational computing did
>the government ever encourage the use of Apples. As far as I know, the
>only way the gov't bore any of the price tag for computers in education
>was through grants (platform independent) or at the state level through
>negotiating volume pricing (all manufacturers included). Also, in
>Virginia in 1988 and 1990, the state had an initiative to get a
critical
>mass of machines into grade levels 5-8. Some of the state money for
>education was distributed in hardware form. There were 2 contracts -
>one to Apple and the other to the winner of the DOS machine bid
(Tandy).
>I think IBM challenged the outcome of the bid process but Tandy
>received the contract in the end. Each district then specified which
>type of machine they wanted. Apple II GSes or the Tandy 1000TL. In 90
>the Apple offered was the new Mac LC (with no hard drive). The number
of
>machines you received depended on your school's enrollment. This was a
>departure from the usual method of basing state aid on the district's
>financial index.
>
>In the 80s Apple was much more committed to Computers in Education than
>any other company. IBM made several abortive attempts, and formed
>their Eduquest division to handle the market. The machines were
>under-powered and the software was deadly. Apple asked teachers what
>they wanted, IBM told us what we should have. Apple also made its
>Appleworks software (WP, SS, DB) software available to schools at an
>extremely reasonable price. IBMs prices were out of sight. And based
>on market share, educational software manufacturers concentrated their
>best stuff on the Apple platform. As the percentages changed so did
the
>mix of available titles. The Mac only label was common in the 80s;
now
>you rarely see it.
>
>The IIes were real workhorses in the schools - impossible to kill. The
>GS, which was supposed to replace them, really didn't offer too much
new
>for us other than a 3.5" drive. The Appletalk built-in network was
>supposed to be a plus - and it was for printing - but using it for
>program sharing was a painfully slow process. I remember telling the
>Apple rep that I wasn't sure what the future would be, but it wouldn't
>be running at 2 MHz and it wouldn't be black and white (as the Macs
were
>at that time). I taught BASIC and even Pascal on those old Apples
until
>88 when we bought Tandys. One lab had Apple cards in them to run the
>old software.
>
>When Apple introduced its color Macs (1990?), they were so much more
>expensive than the similarly powered DOS machines that it was no
>contest, we joined the Wintel world. Also, we installed our first
>Novell network which helped the decision.
>
>On the West Coast, I think Apple was much more heavily involved in
>providing hardware to schools through grants. There were several
>showcase "Classrooms of Tomorrow?" And once a district invested in
>Apple the tendency was to continue buying the same product.
>
>The introduction of Windows 95 also did a lot to change encourage
>education to change platforms.
>
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>>Slashdot.org has a story explaining that the UK school system can't
>>afford NT 5 and are considering another OS. In light of this, people
>>were bringing up Apple's success in schools in contrast to the current
>>situation. However, I have heard that the only reason why Apples were
>>common in schools was that the gov't bore some of the price tag to
>>encourage use of Apples, and Apple didn't pay as much attention to
>>education as is generally thought. Is this true? What were the
>>particulars of Apple educational licensing?
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