Haggle Online (Was: ePay)

From: Hans Franke <franke_at_sbs.de>
Date: Tue Oct 27 07:43:14 1998

>> Jep. If not eBay, maybe another system will pick up the idea.
>> This could maybe give em the right difference for competition.

> I wish it were this simple. eBay already has the reputation among
> "collectors" (I use that term to include the speculators and idiots as
> well) as being THE place to go to sell and buy vintage computers. I'd
> much rather this place be Haggle Online since that site has a specific
> "Antique Computers" listing (http://www.haggle.com/cache/cat43.html).

> Someone has to come along and actively market their site as THE place to
> buy/sell vintage computers, and then institute a good auction policy that
> will cut down on the gripes we are hearing here.

I don't think that 'marketing' is the most needed. It needs some
different details to get more attention. The Antique Computer
colume is one step - also keeping the theme (dash out OT). But
there is still this anoying min bid thing and the sniper possibility
(althrough I haven't seen any special Haggle sniping SW until now).

Why I'm aginst min bids ? Now, first it prevents from giving
a bin in an amount I think is reasonable. Second, thru canceling
this maybe very low bid, it avoids any bidding competition wich
eventualy will rise the price above ana limit.

For an example there is an actual SX-64 on Haggle with an min
bid of 75 USD and no bid from any of the more than 30 visitors.
When comparing to eBay, where SXes are sold for something like
70 to 120 USD the price idea isn't wrong, but nobody jumps in.
While on eBay such a SX starts at some 10 USD and rises.

In fact, until now the minbid has disatracted me from at
least 5 items. I maybe would have end at a price above the
min bid, within the auction, but for shure to expensive to
start with.

The reserved price thing, where the seller reserves the richt
to refuses if a specific price isn't reached is a lot more
usefull. No seller will claim his reserved price if the auction
ends just 5 USD below, but at least a price is negotiated. The
only thing I dislike is the automatic lift to the reserve,
if the _maximum_ bid is above.

> I'm ready to start if someone is willing to follow my lead.

Oh master, be my leader (Or was it Heil Salaam?). SCNR.
For real, I look at Haggle Online at least twice a week,
but as long as I cant't go for what I need, I have still
to stay at eBay.

Gruss
Hans

--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
Received on Tue Oct 27 1998 - 07:43:14 GMT

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