On 14 Apr 99 at 21:20, Max Eskin wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 jpero_at_cgocable.net wrote:
> >I had to rescue an Everex Step 386/25 with yellow diagnostic
> >display and few other "useful" junk. Very interesting features
> >designed into that everex thing: 256K cache, can handle up to
> >64MB and few things in it. That "junk" came from a douated
> >government stuff piled high in LARGE amounts enough to fill at
> >least 2 full length trucks at high school who have to toss them what
> >left out too after finished their cherrypicking them for their uses.
>
> OK, I'll post weekly lists of stuff to be thrown away. I will charge
> 1.2*(cost of shipping). However, I can assure you that there is nothing
> 'interesting' being thrown away. This is all plain vanilla stuff. There
> are some interesting things there (a bunch of dual-486 ISA cards) which
> are being kept :)
>
> --Max Eskin (max82_at_surfree.com)
> http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power
>
I used to admire your brash freshness and sense of social justice but now I
must question which brand of the new Soviet mafia you are enamored of .
Correct me if I'm wrong Max but I believe you live in NYC. Are you telling me
that everyone in NYC has a computer who desires one ? This glut of computers
that you had "fun" destroying, was there really any attempt to distribute them
to the various communities and people who might desire a computer?
United States is held in contempt by much of the world just because of it's
gluttinous consumer society attitudes. Surely CC is an example that shows
that that is not the prevailing belief.. Most of us have respect for the labor
and industry that went into these creations, usually ill-rewarded and often
unrecognized. I would like to think that is the deeper feeling that motivates
us, not the rising E-pay prices.
I have been fascinated by the destructive angst of North American kids and
have equivicated it to powerlessness and a reaction against a materialistic
society but have still watched in awe as some project kids gleefully reduce
an auto to meaningless junk. If it was my own kids I would kick shit out of
them and realise I knew them not.
Having come from a prewar generation where we watched TV at friends houses
because our families couldn't afford this new technology and an earlier time
when indoor toilets were a luxury I sometimes take a reality check and am
astounded at what we now take for granted. I can actually record any event
audio or visually and manipulate that data. I can print without typing or even
print my voice dictation. I can hear a printed text if I desire or have access
to a vast library of books or other media. Not to mention encyclopedias
without end and news without editorial control.
I am reminded that my mothers fresh home made bread was accompanied with an
admoniton that we had to stop feasting our avericious young appetites on the
delicious warm fresh loaves with fresh butter since it would make us sick if
too much was ingested. It took me years to discern that it would also deplete
the stock of bread from our sparse larders. Try and explain that to a kid in
North America (not Mexico) who thinks that bread is plentiful and pretty
boring.unless covered in jam.
The bottom line is that we shoud feel ashamed at anything that goes to
landfill that is desired and beneficial even out of respect for the labour that
has gone into them. My Take on things.
Rant OFF
ciao larry
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Received on Wed Apr 14 1999 - 21:39:27 BST