Formatting disk on rt11

From: CLASSICCMP_at_trailing-edge.com <(CLASSICCMP_at_trailing-edge.com)>
Date: Sun Jun 6 08:18:41 1999

>>RX50 formatting under RT-11 V5.7 (i.e. FORMAT/SINGLE DUn:) only is
>>supported on certain 3rd-party controllers like the Andromeda ESDC and
>>SCDC. It doesn't work with RQDX1/2/3's.

>Regarding my prior message, I stand corrected...

Well, in *this* particular case, Mentec arranged for Andromeda to
give me a SCDC controller with some SCSI drives and 5.25" and 3.5" floppies,
and that's the reason why the Andromeda is supported for this operation
under RT-11 5.7 :-).

>But even though an RQDX3 is not required (or useful) for this, I'll
>suspect an RX33-type drive still is. Is that correct, Tim?

Not necessarily. I just hooked a true DEC RX50 to my SCDC, configured
it, and it still lets me do a RX50 format:

SCDC User Service Port V3.06

  B Configure controller HARDWARE JUMPERS
  D Display/define physical DRIVE PARAMETERS
  A Assign logical DU/MU UNITS
  C Configure controller SOFTWARE OPTIONS
  E Exercise a SCSI DISK drive
  F FORMAT a DISK drive
  P RESET controller and EXIT

? d

SCSI or Floppy (S or F)? f

Floppy drive number (0 or 1)? 0

Floppy drive 0: 800 blocks
Floppy drive types:
   76 3.5" 80 track DS
  134 5.25" 80 track DS
  420 DEC RX50 dual drive
Floppy drive type (76, 134, or 420) [134]? 420

SCSI or Floppy (S or F)?

SAVE CHANGES- Are you sure (Y or N) [N]? y


SCDC User Service Port V3.06

  B Configure controller HARDWARE JUMPERS
  D Display/define physical DRIVE PARAMETERS
  A Assign logical DU/MU UNITS
  C Configure controller SOFTWARE OPTIONS
  E Exercise a SCSI DISK drive
  F FORMAT a DISK drive
  P RESET controller and EXIT

? f

SCSI or Floppy (S or F)? f

Floppy drive number (0 or 1)? 0


Floppy drive 0: (offline)
Available floppy formats:
  DD 800 blocks
Which format (# of blocks)?

Now whether you want to actually do the format on a DEC RX50 drive is
another question. According to Charles Lasner's voluminous posts on RX50
technical details, RX50 drives lack the required physical head-positioning
accuracy to make a RX50 floppy that's guaranteed to be interchangable with
other drives. Look at Charles's posts to alt.sys.pdp8 on the topic
from 4-5 years ago for more details about his tests.

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