Disk Drive Documents

From: Pete Turnbull <pete_at_dunnington.u-net.com>
Date: Mon Jun 7 17:25:55 1999

Leaving aside some of the vitriol, Sellam, Tony and Dick have made some
valid points about document format.

These documents and others like them are of interest mainly to people who
collect old machines; whether there are more Windows users who die every
day than there are users of computer systems desiring but inherently unable
to view PDF files is totally irrelevant -- the vast majority of those
Windows users aren't interested in these documents. On the other hand,
there are lots of people like us who use classic machines day-to-day. For
example, until recently, the machine I used most often was an Acorn
Archimedes. It certainly has graphics and comms capabilities, but it can't
view PDF. (There is now a viewer, but it's too big, too slow, and too
restricted to be useful on my Arc). Even now, I don't use Windows, and I
know many other users who don't. There are several UNIX OSs out there that
don't have PDF viewers, and a few that only run old versions of Acroread
(there was a lot of complaining about a year ago that AIX didn't have a PDF
viewer). Furthermore, I'm sure that many enthusiasts might well use the
internet, say at work, to download "stuff", that then gets copied for use
on a classic machine elsewhere. Finally, as far as machines are concerned,
not all of them can use cheap large-capacity hard drives, so size *is* an
issue.

All of this suggests that Word documents are a complete non-starter, and
however convenient PDF is in some ways, it shouldn't be the *only* format
provided. I think we're all agreed on that? I'd also submit that
PostScript is less useful than either. There are few systems that can
handle PostScript but not PDF; all can handle ASCII+GIF; it can be a real
pain extracting individual pages from PostScript, especially the
almost-DSC-compliant PS produced by Microsloth. Even printing it can be
problematic.

PDF is nice because it can preserve the original layout, with diagrams in
the right places etc, but for many purposes having the diagrams separate
(and viewed in a separate window) is actually a nicer way of working --
depending on purpose and personal preference. For the latter scheme,
there's little wrong with flat ASCII text files and some GIFs. Stream TIFF
might theoretically be better suited to scanned diagrams, but isn't so well
supported as GIF. As for the size of the raster image, it can be scrolled
or scaled on any reasonable graphics system I've ever seen -- and that's
exactly what happens anyway when a scanned image is put in a PDF file and
displayed or printed. If the images are separate, anyone who wants can
print one separately, blown up to the size they want (resolution
permitting) and printed out separately to pin on the wall over the bench.
 You can't do that with Acroread.

There are plenty of document formats that don't keep everything in one
file. Why should that be a requirement? There are probably more systems
that use directories or folders than single files. Tar/zip for
distribution is fine for these.

As Sellam said, you'll never get a concensus about a single format that all
of the interested parties can access. I don't agree that means you should
use only the lowest common denominator; I think it means you should provide
two (or more) formats. I'll download the PDF if it's available[1], but
I'll surely download the ASCII too. Of course, I'm assuming that one is
more-or-less as easy to produce as the other, if you have the originals.

[1] unless I discover that the "text" within it isn't OCRed or typed, but
scanned bitmaps, in which case I'll likely throw it away again.

-- 
Pete						Peter Turnbull
						Dept. of Computer Science
						University of York
Received on Mon Jun 07 1999 - 17:25:55 BST

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