From: Pat Barron <pat_at_transarc.ibm.com>
Date: Tue Nov 30 16:45:35 1999

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Mike wrote:
> Actually, I've started reading VAX/VMS Internals and Data Structures. Now I
> know what a real operating system is. Alas.

No, no, no ... if you want to know what a real operating system is, you
need to read the Lions book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1573980137).

I shouldn't laugh, I actually have copies of VAX/VMS Internals and Data
Structures for V3.x and V4.x, along with a bunch of other VMS-related
material. My first serious job was doing systems programming on a 780
running VMS V3.5 - it really is a nice environment for doing programming,
even if some of the coolest stuff was undocumented (like class and port
drivers - not documented even in Internals and Data Structures for V3, but
I think they were documented later - and unfortunately, what I was tasked
to work on at the time....). Couldn't stand DCL as a command language,

> Actually, if someone wants to save me before heading down this *enticing*
> path. I'll trade all of the listed books for a 'First Book ok Kim'

Hmmm ... you'll have to find something else to trade (I have all the
VAX books I could ever want in one lifetime, thank you very much... ;-) ),
but I'm sure I could part with my copy of "The First Book of KIM"; haven't
looked at it in at least 12 years.... I'll start looking for it tonight,
not sure I even still know where it is ....

Received on Tue Nov 30 1999 - 16:45:35 GMT

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