The Denver 6502 Group's web site is very new and, even so, I would not hold
out much hope for the appearance of this software in any form, as nobody has
used it in just about 20 years. The way I remember it, FOCAL was the first
interpreter, and in fact, the first high level language that the group had
as a common resource. Nevertheless, after the day the Apple Basic was
modified/adapted for general use, nobody even mentioned FOCAL again except
perhaps in a historical reference.
Though the group back then (1978) had a couple of JOLT users, nobody ever
showed up with or talked about a KIM, with one exception, and he only did
that once, as nobody seems to have shared his interest.
In early '79, after the Apple users more or less split off in order to form
a group of their own, a set of listings of what was then the current
generation of the stuff various group members, mostly the same three or four
guys, was printed for those of the group who wanted it. Some people
preferred microfiche . . . In any case that was the last time a full set of
listings of the group's output was generated. In fact, aside from
revisions of the XPL0 compiler and the APEX OS software, nothing further was
generated, as the hardware interest seems to have died off.
I know I have the complete set of listings, but it may not surface for a
while.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul R. Santa-Maria <paulrsm_at_ameritech.net>
To: <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 8:37 PM
Subject: FOCAL (was: KIM/6502 code)
> Does anyone know if any FOCAL (DEC originals or otherwise) documentation
is
> online?
>
> I am delighted to find someone with this software. I would have been
> satisfied with a printed hex dump, but if you have the manual and the
> source code, yee-haw! When you find it please contact me. I'll take
> photocopies, faxes, scans, .PDF, anything. As far as being
> "machine-readable", for the KIM that would be paper tape or cassette tape;
> neither are as useful as a "human-readable" version. I found the Denver
> Area 6502 Group on the web at www.6502group.com; so far they have not been
> able to help me with FOCAL. www.6502.org has no leads to it that I could
> find.
>
> I want to get this stuff to run on my Apple IIe. I am interested in any
> KIM/SYM/AIM/6502 software that folks might have, especially with source
> code. Anyone have issues of MICRO (the 6502 journal) they want to get rid
> of? I do have the Best of MICRO, vols 1-3 and a few separate issues
> (#73-76), plus the MICRO on the Apple vols 1-3.
>
> Paul R. Santa-Maria
> Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
> paulrsm_at_ameritech.net
>
> ----------
> > From: Richard Erlacher <edick_at_idcomm.com>
> > To: classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: KIM/6502 code (was ClassicCmp paper tape)
> > Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 08:48 PM
> >
> > I don't know that anyone has machine-readables of the FOCAL interpreter
> that
> > was cooked up in the Denver Area 6502 group, but I do believe I have a
> > printed manual and a printed listing of the interpreter. I'm quite
> certain
> > that I won't be able to find it until well into spring, however. Now
> that
> > many of us have scanners, new life is breathed into software available
> only
> > in the printed listings.
> >
> > Frankly, I hope someone has machine readable files of these items, but
> I'm
> > not aware of them.
> >
> > Dick
>
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