Collections vs. accumulations, was Re: How many collectors?

From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman_at_theestopinalgroup.com>
Date: Mon Aug 6 16:57:41 2001

> On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> > > Want a fuel injection "brain" from a 1968 VW Squareback?
> > Had Bosch come up with EFI already by 1968?
> yes.

> > Every VW (and Audi & MB, etc) of that vintage that I've seen used
> > CIS, which was a purely mechanical system.
> Then you've never seen any VWs of that vintage.

What I meant...

> In 1968, ALL VW type 1 (beetle) and type 2 (bus) used a
> single carburetor.

What I meant was that if it didn't use a carb, all I'd
seen was CIS. I thought EFI was a 70s invention; I stand
corrected!

And BTW, I seek-and-destroy Solex carbs; they were designed only
for the purpose of being replaced by a Weber!

> The type 3 was Botch electronic fool injection (Lots of wires and senders,
> and a "brain" in the left rear fender). There was no type 4 yet.

Ah, yes, the Audifans also use this "fool" designation...

> through about 1964, the VW type 3 (squareback/ "fastback"/ and the
> "rare" "notchback") had a single sidedraft Solex carb, with
> single port heads.
> Then they switched to to two Solex carbs ????? -2 and -3
> '67 VW type 3 had the two carburetors (with dual port heads)

Audi created a monster in Europe with the Audi Coupe 100, which
came in a version that had dual 32/36DGV Solex's... 130HP, not
bad for that engine, if you know it's history (4 cyl OHV, the
block got redesigned into an OHC for the Porsche 924 and some
VW truck sold only in Europe, not to mention the Jeep).

> In 1968, the type 3 switched over to Botch electronic fool injection.
> It was a 1600cc engine. It required a little tweaking to make the EFI
> work with 2180 (the maximum size that that block could be readily expanded
> to.)

So, prior to the fuel crisis and emission controls, what was
the motivating factor for the use of EFI? And why bother with
CIS once you have EFI (spraying fuel into cylinders at off-times
never maid sense).

> > I have seen a 1969 Audi Super 90 (wagon) that had an aftermarket
> > Capacitative Discharge Ignition (CDI) System... by 1974, Audis
> > had those as stock, while CIS was still 1 year off...
> > My 1986 Audi 5000 CS Turbo Quattro uses a Motorola 6802-based
> > controller... very simple to upgrade, too.... ;-)
>
> [every time somebody doubts the existence of stuff, I double
> the price on it due to its obvious rarity!]

I'll have to cruise by the E-Bay VW section... didn't know you
were prevalent there too!

-dq
Received on Mon Aug 06 2001 - 16:57:41 BST