Troll got me (was Re: Is there no end)

From: Sellam Ismail <foo_at_siconic.com>
Date: Tue Dec 18 14:29:07 2001

Before this whole discussion turns overtly racist, can we please take it
SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT BELONGS???

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Chris wrote:

> >I based my statement upon information gleaned from conversations with my
> >customers, 80% of which are black. Most of them think that Kwanzaa was
> >"made up" by retailers in order to get their money. Some have told me that
> >they resent the "social engineering" aspect of Kwanzaa. Here in the South,
> >there seems to be very little support of or identification with this event
> >among African-Americans.
>
> Oh, you need to come up here, and visit the heavily black neighborhoods
> of Jersey City (conviently, right where my wife grew up)... there,
> Kwanzaa is a big deal, and it has NOTHING to do with retailers getting
> their money. It has everything to do with their not celebrating christmas
> because that is whitey's holiday, and crackers are the enemy (their
> terms, not mine... I get "whitey"... I get "white bread"... but
> cracker?!? I would ask when visiting my inlaws... but I would just get my
> ass kicked, or worse, shot).
>
> As to the REAL reason for Kwanzaa, I have no idea, but I do know, around
> here it is entirely a racial thing, and the only people that really seem
> to take it seriously are the inner city high crime area
> Afican-Americans... which unfortuantly gives the whole thing a bad notion
> up here. Its a shame really, as I am sure there was a real reason for it,
> but like many other things, it has been badly perverted by a very very
> select group of people who decided to use it for their own agenda.

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