You definately have a SCSI termination or addressing issue here.
I would, on general principles, not use addresses 1 or 7 for any
device until you know which of those two addys your interface is on.
I've forgotten what the setup terminationwise is. I know the external
scsi line needs termination, so turn it on on your cdrom. I *think*
the setup that works in mine is the internal hard disk is not terminated.
You should see all the drives when you type show dev from the console.
If you don't, fix the problem before you bother trying to boot.
Hope this helps.
-Jim
>
> Hello,
> Multiple apologies in advance: The peripherals are generally
> on-topic (and I think that's where my problem is), but the primary unit
> under investigation, the VAX, isn't until next year. Also, please forgive
> the long post. Finally, I'm in digest mode, so I'll respond slowly unless
> you cc me at mtapley_at_swri.edu .
> I'm trying to load OpenVMS Hobbyist (at last!) onto a VaxStation
> 4000 VLC. A lot is working, but something isn't. Here's what I have:
>
> VaxStation 4000 VLC
> 16 M Ram
> RZ26-L (1Gig) hard drive, no jumpers on terminator block, SCSI ID 1.
> S3 in up position
> Rainbow 100A, running Kermit on MS-DOS 3.11b, 9600/8/n/1
> Offset-snap RJ11 DEC serial console cable, from VAX console connector to
> adaptor to DB25 at Rainbow COMM port
> 50pin M-M Centronics-type (off-brand) SCSI cable
> AppleCD 300 external (caddy-load) (can you see trouble coming right here?)
> SCSI ID = 2
> External SCSI terminator.
>
> The SCSI is, if I'm correctly reading what RZ26 docs I have, terminated at
> the RZ26 and at the CD drive. (I know, this is not both "ends" of the
> cable. The RZ-26 is within about 10 cm. of the computer end of the cable.)
> I've tried the terminator-block jumper in all three positions (off, on one
> pair, on the other pair) on the RZ26, same results. I've also tried with
> and without the external terminator on the CD, same results.
>
> When I turn everything else on, load the CD caddy with the DEC Hobbyist VMS
> CD in place, then turn on the VAX, I see on the Rainbow (edited from the
> Kermit session log, esc/other special characters dealt with harshly by my
> text editor and me):
>
> KA48-A V1.3-343-V4.0
> 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A
> 16MB
> |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx|
> ?? 010 2 LCG 0086
> ?? 001 9 NI 0172
> ?? 121 10 SCSI 0034
> >>>
>
> uh-oh. I'm *hoping* the LCG line means no monitor attached to the VAX
> graphics board (true, also no keyboard or mouse - yet), and the NI line
> means I'm not connected to a network (also true, so far). Anybody with a
> 4000 VLC owners' manual? The SCSI line worries me. (When I boot without the
> CD drive attached, or with the CD drive turned off, it does not appear.) If
> I then do SHOW CONFIG I see:
>
> KA48-A V1.3-343-V4.0
> 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A
> 16MB
>
>
> DEVNBR DEVNAM INFO
> ------ -------- --------------------------
> 1 NVR OK
> 2 LCG ?? 010 0086
> HR - 8 PLN FB - V1.2
> 3 DZ OK
> 4 CACHE OK
> 5 MEM OK
> 16MB = S0/1=8MB, S2/3=8MB, S4/5=0MB
> 6 FPU OK
> 7 IT OK
> 8 SYS OK
> 9 NI ?? 001 0172
> 10 SCSI ?? 121 0034
> 1-RZ26L 2-CD-ROM 6-INITR
> 11 AUD OK
>
> >>>
>
> The SCSI system has correctly identified the addresses and types of the two
> drives on it - but still shows ??'s. (I can change the address at which
> INITR appears, using the SET SCSI command. No effect that I've noticed.
> Things were wierd when the CD-ROM SCSI ID and INITR were both set to 6.)
> If I then do SHOW DEV, the RZ26 spins up, starts clicking and clacking, and
> I see:
>
> VMS/VMB ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM REV
> ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------ ---
> ESA0 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A
>
> ?33 UNXINT
> 010 00000002 041F0000
>
> and the system seems to stop there. I can <BREAK> out back to the >>>
> prompt, but never get the info for either the RZ26 or the CD drive. (With
> no CD drive, I do see info (correct, as far as I can tell) for the RZ26.) I
> can repeat SHOW DEV and SHOW CONFIG with the same results. If I then enter
> BOOT DKA200 I see:
>
> ?02 EXT HLT
> PC= 2004ACA4 PSL= 041F0000
>
> and that's about as far as it goes. I can still <BREAK> back to the prompt.
>
> *However*, if I shut down the VAX, Start back up, and at the first prompt,
> enter boot dka200 , the CD active light goes on and flickers as though
> it were being accessed, and the Rainbow shows:
>
>
> -DKA200
> %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk
> %SYSBOOT-W-SYSBOOT Can not map SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk
> %SYSBOOT-W-SYSBOOT Can not map PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk
> OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X72T Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
> PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM)
>
> I enter 26-JUN-2001 and see:
>
> Configuring devices . . .
>
> Available device DKA100: device type RZ26L
> Available device DKA200: device type SONY CD-ROM
> CDU-8
> %BACKUP-I-IDENT, Stand-alone BACKUP T7.2; the date is 26-JUN-2001 00:00:56.16
>
> $
> Up to here it matches pretty well with what the docs for the Hobbyist CD
> indicate. I enter BACKUP/IMAGE DKA200:VMS072.B/SAVE DKA100: and see:
>
> %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, SABKUP$DKA200: is offline. Mount verification in progress.
>
> and that's all I see, at least for as long as I've had patience to watch.
> The CD active light is off from then on. When my patience runs out, I hit
> <Break> on the Rainbow, get a >>> prompt, and do SHOW DEV (same result as
> above), <Break>, SHOW CONFIG (same as above), and then SHOW DEV and I see:
>
> VMS/VMB ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM REV
> ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------ ---
> ESA0 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A
> DKA100 A/1/0 DISK 1.05GB FX RZ26L
> 441T
> DKA200 A/2/0 RODISK 681.57MB RM WP CD-ROM
> 1.9a
> A/2/7
> A/2/7
> A/2/7
> A/2/7
> ..HostID.. A/6 INITR
>
>
> Now the SCSI system has identified the CD drive as a SONY and correctly
> read data from the CD (else how did it know that it was trying to load
> OpenVMS 7.2?)! Yet something is still, to quote the bard, "rotten in
> Denmark". I can't get (haven't gotten?) through the install sequence any
> farther than the accursed %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER.
>
> Out of decorum, I suppose I should say WITW? (What in the World?) but
> stronger language is what I have in mind.
>
> Clues would be well appreciated.
>
> I have not tried disassembling the SCSI drive - it seems to work OK with
> the NeXT, and with Macs (PB3400, Plus). I could do that, though.
>
> Help? In the absence of any clues, I'll probably take apart the CD300 to
> see if I can spot anything obviously misjumpered, then start hunting for a
> real DEC external CD drive.
> - Mark
>
>
>
--
Jim Strickland
jim_at_DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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