You be it's OT: World Trade crash updates...

From: Richard Erlacher <edick_at_idcomm.com>
Date: Wed Sep 12 08:02:47 2001

Actually, the "whining" I was remembering was not from reservists so much as
from certain active-duty ethnic groups. These groups had coalesced into a
vociferous groups to attract the media, which they did. Their complaints, in at
least one noteable case simply amounted to complaining they hadn't signed up to
go somplace overseas to get shot-at,
but only to be able to retire in luxury (at least above poverty-level) after
only 20 years of doing very little useful work.

I happened to catch that on an evening news broadcast at about 6 or 7 in the
evening, as I drove home from work. Having put in some time in the military
during the '60's, I was not favorably impressed.

It doesn't surprise me when I hear that sort of thing about NG or reserve units
being called up to do something, but when active duty types complain, which they
did far and wide during the startup of the Gulf War, I am irritated.

Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhblakeman_at_kih.net>
To: <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: RE: You be it's OT: World Trade crash updates...


> By the way the whining at the onset of thr Gulf ar was from reservists who
> thought they'd never be deployed. I was there and know exactly who they had
> going and their little spouses screaming how they were done wrong by GHB and
> his bunch of idiots. Not disagreeing with you, just clarifying.
>
> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> From: owner-classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
> -> [mailto:owner-classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Richard Erlacher
> -> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:22 PM
> -> To: classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
> -> Subject: You be it's OT: World Trade crash updates...
> ->
> ->
> -> Now just a minute, there, mister!
> ->
> -> I remember the hue and cry at the outset of the Gulf War when
> -> the nation's
> -> military was represented on the air for the better part of a
> -> week whining that
> -> they hadn't signed up to go somplace overseas to get shot-at,
> -> but only to be
> -> able to retire in luxury (at least above poverty-level) after
> -> only 20 years of
> -> doing very little useful work. That's what attracts the sorts
> -> that keep society
> -> from viewing the military as an honorable profession. (The current pres'
> -> brother Neil Bush went on trial on 1/15/91, the day the "Desert Shield"
> -> operation started, BTW, and that was probably no coincidence.)
> ->
> -> My own experience in the military, where I spent several years
> -> certainly taught
> -> me that few groups could be singled out as having fewer
> -> grey-cells per capita
> -> than the military, though there were certainly SOME people in it
> -> who weren't
> -> total nit-wits. The only group I've ever seen collected that
> -> has exhibited less
> -> intellectual horsepower than what I observed in the military is
> -> what's gathered
> -> in Washington D.C, and particularly in the White House during the current
> -> administration.
> ->
> -> The previous chief exec certainly was no beacon of honorability, but was
> -> certainly smarter than what's in power now. At least he spoke
> -> English well
> -> enough so you could understand what he'd said. His English is
> -> barely better
> -> than his Spanish, and that isn't too good!
> ->
> -> I'm ashamed to admit that I once made it a blanket policy to vote for
> -> Republicans, at least for state and local offices. Though I
> -> haven't voted for a
> -> Republican chief since the disappointing results I got from
> -> Tricky Dicky, the
> -> past election was the first one in which I actually voted for a
> -> Democrat ... ANY
> -> democrat. That was a vote against George II and largely because it's
> -> embarassing to have the pres of Mexico speak better English than
> -> our Pres. I
> -> admit that back when Carter, Sadat, and Arafat were on the tube,
> -> it wasn't our
> -> chief who spoke the most elegant English either, though at least
> -> he could put
> -> together a coherent subject and predicate. Now that he writes
> -> some of his own
> -> stuff it's improved greatly.
> ->
> -> The reason the military is weak is not because it has too little
> -> in resources,
> -> but because it's too corrupt, but not only from the top down, which is
> -> dishonest, for sure, but from the bottom up as well. That's
> -> because the entire
> -> premise of "sit around for 20 years, keep your head down, and
> -> retire ..." is
> -> corrupt. It wasn't always like that, but somewhere, between the
> -> 60's and the
> -> mid-70's ... Throwing more money at that mess won't fix a thing,
> -> and that's all
> -> those yokels in 'D.C. know how to do.
> ->
> -> Dick
> ->
> -> ----- Original Message -----
> -> From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhblakeman_at_kih.net>
> -> To: <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
> -> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:00 PM
> -> Subject: RE: OT: World Trade crash updates...
> ->
> ->
> -> > I actually would say that Uncle (horndog) Billie and his
> -> sidekick Algore
> -> > screwed up our defense system so badly that much of the
> -> systems we used to
> -> > have that could have possibly detected this (if it could have
> -> been at all)
> -> > and the loyalty to the US military weere gone and today, along with the
> -> > swift and intelligent actions of our new CIC, will serve to bring the
> -> > military back to some sense of loyalty and intelligence. Much
> -> of the reason
> -> > I opted for nearly a year early retirement was the state of
> -> the military and
> -> > our CIC at the time (95).
> -> >
> -> > -> -----Original Message-----
> -> > -> From: owner-classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
> -> > -> [mailto:owner-classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Chad Fernandez
> -> > -> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:56 AM
> -> > -> To: classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org
> -> > -> Subject: Re: OT: World Trade crash updates...
> -> > ->
> -> > ->
> -> > -> Sellam Ismail wrote:
> -> > -> > All I have to say is that this country has finally done
> -> itself in with
> -> > -> > it's arrogance.
> -> > ->
> -> > -> I disagree. Any terrorist acts are the responsibility of the
> -> > -> terrorists. Even if someone doesn't like what the US does
> -> or is, it is
> -> > -> still there decision to do acts of terrorism. It is not
> -> our fault for
> -> > -> making people do acts of terrorism.
> -> > ->
> -> > -> > I fear this will plunge the world into war.
> -> > ->
> -> > -> I could see a very targeted attack against whoever the responsible
> -> > -> parties are, like when we went into Panama or Libya.
> -> > ->
> -> > -> Chad Fernandez
> -> > -> Michigan, USA
> -> > ->
> -> >
> -> >
> ->
> ->
>
>
Received on Wed Sep 12 2001 - 08:02:47 BST