Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

From: Richard Erlacher <edick_at_idcomm.com>
Date: Tue Apr 23 10:59:21 2002

You need to get your facts straight, Raymond, and your grammar, syntax, and
orthography need work too.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Moyers" <rmoyers_at_nop.org>
To: <classiccmp_at_classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

> On Monday 22 April 2002 23:43, you wrote:
> the brainwashed anti reality feelings-based moonified
> left have butchered 200 million people,
> In first place we have Stalinist USSR that butchered 60 million
> of its own people.
> In second Place is Mao who murdered 40 Million of his own
> people
> In third place is the National Socialists (Nazi) under Hitler
> with 20 Million dead
> Those are the top 3 of the left
> > I don't agree with your political descriptions.
> Your a Holocaust denier ?
> > Windows I use if I have too.
> Sure, we all end up in the have-to mode all the time .
> > > Flexability is freedom, freedom gives birth to creativity.
> > >
> > > True or false dont matter ? you really would make a good leftist
> > > ( called liberal today, even as the real liberal is the opposite of a
> > > leftist, its George Orwells newspeak, todays liberals are not liberals
> > > they are leftists, perhaps Marxocrat would be a good label )
> >
> > I always got lost in political terms. True or False do matter but I
> > don't have all the information to say that is true or false or a ring
> > oscillator.
> Thats the leftist brainwashing at work, when people can no longer
> identify right or wrong or true or false, they are ready to be fed lies
> and be complicit with horrendus evil, as the 200 million murdered,
> thats 4 times the 43 Million battle dead of all wars, would testify
> if the dead could talk.
> > > What makes you think they wont ? you can have any size you want.
> > I tried (under linux)!
> > No font gives me 80 x 25 on a 640x480 window!
> Eh ? thats the standard of a tty and any xterm can be streached
> full screen and run huge fonts ...
> the font i use for xterms is 9x15bold
> > > This is wrong, to do so would eliminate creativity.
> >
> > How can that be? -- if only the scribes can read and write what hope
> > does the common farmer have to write something profound.
> If Big Brother handed down a book of news speak we would have your
> utopia then ... with all such non-words eliminated.
> The tcpip suite itself has all the rules you need, all else is userspace
> and should be and must be freeform or else creativity is stiffled
> just as bad as leftism stomps out creativity by removing incentive
> and its slavery like condition of existance.
> Freedom isnt chaos, the free world has rules, the ip stack
> has rules, but the only valid rules are those that restrict
> others from .... be it an individual or the demands of the
> mob ( usually led by a tyrant ) ..... impinging on that freedom.
> These quotes are good illustrations of the concepts
> "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action, according to our
> will, within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of
> others." -- Thomas Jefferson
> "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to
> protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficient...
> The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment
> by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."
> -- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
> "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force;
> like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never
> for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
> -- George Washington, in a speech of January 7, 1790
> False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real
> advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that
> would take fire from men because it burns, and water because
> one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except
> destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are
> laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
> -- Cesare Beccaria, as quoted by Thomas Jefferson's Commonplace book
> The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the
> right of the people at large or considered as individuals...
> It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable
> and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive
> them of. -- Albert Gallatin, Oct 7 1789
> Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption
> of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the
> Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers
> of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to
> govern well, but they mean to govern.
> They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.
> -- Daniel Webster
> The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised
> over any member of a civilized community, against his will,
> is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical
> or moral, is not a sufficient warrant
> -- John Stuart Mill, "On Liberty", 1859
> Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its
> victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
> under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
> The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity
> may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for
> our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with
> the approval of their consciences. -- C. S. Lewis
> It will be of little avail to the people, that the laws are
> made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous
> that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot
> be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are
> promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man,
> who knows what the law is to-day, can guess what it will be
> to-morrow. Law is defined to be a rule of action; but how can
> that be a rule, which is little known, and less fixed?
> -- James Madison, Federalist Papers 62
> Don't ever think you know what's right for the other person.
> He might start thinking he knows what's right for you.
> -- Paul Williams, `Das Energi'
> To understand open source unix is to see the parallels
> it has with the free market populated by a free people
> Its why america remains the powerhouse that it is,
> we are more powerfull because we have more freedom
> All goverments that follow the leftist model are known for famine
> mass murder and dispair or are following the same path
> as the poor fools that went before them.
> Unix is a great system because of the same freedom, it does
> not dictate the language you use or the look or feel of the
> interface, the X11 primatives push look and feel into
> userspace.
> Dont like Gnome or Kde ? Windomaker is my fav,
> there are dozens of desktops that look like riscos or macos or
> plan9 or .. the choice is all up to the user, Freedom !
> And the choice of interface dont dictate what apps you run,
> the kde and gnome stuff run fine on a windowmaker desktop
> Freedom !
> Choice ! Freedom ! Creativity ! freedom of action, freedom
> from dictate.
> > > On a 2 button mouse, you press both buttons to simulate
> > > button 3, it works smoothly and perfectly well.
> >
> > I like 3 buttons better.
> Then i dont see what your complaint was here then ..
> > > > You would make a good leftist, the asurdity seems high enough.
> >
> > Nah ... More a "Mother Earth News" type guy.
> Much of their stuff seems wrapped around the same socialist
> mindset that butchered 200 Million people.
> > > Public space travel to where ?
> > Well off the planet is a good start.
> Off the planet to where ?
> Every time we have reduced taxes, Kennedy, Reagan,
> the boom in the economy created a boom in goverment income.
> But because leftist are not focused on the greatest tax income but
> in bloodstained marxist egalitarianism the misery industry and utopian
> dreamer feelgood schemes the potental and treasure of our people
> has been wasted, we could have been a lot farther along, but
> we have blown it on social engineering, small sips of the same
> egalitarian poison that has butchered so many after they fell
> into the whole leftist program.
> > > I also dream of the day when a colony on mars is in full tilt of the
> > > - 1000 year job of terraforming the place, complete with a planetary
> > > mag field generator to fend off them nasty solar rays, but we are
> > > still suffreing the leftist egalitarian poison that has raped the
> > > of man potential. ( and left 200 million of its citizens in mass
> > > )
> >
> > More like Greed and Capitalism and OVER population!
> This is more brainwashing
> Capitalism has no holocaust to its discredit
> Even bill gates has never machined gunned people into
> a fresh dug ditch.
> If body count is the measure of evil, and you was to make a graph
> then the leftist murder bar would reach to the moon before
> the free marketers bar could be scaled to an inch.
> In the free market the goverment does not have the authority
> or the power to commit such crimes, but the all powerfull
> central controling goverment of the left is stained with blood
> like nothing else ever seen in the history of man.
> > I never could get Mars terraformed in a 1000 years! Are you better with
> > SIM-EARTH than me? BTW if my mars deed has any leagal value in the
> > future I refuse to have my land terraformed YOUR way!
> I would say that perhaps sim earth, is a bit faulty, for example
> if penetubo errupted on sim earth, ( it let go of more CO/2
> and SO/2 than all of mans activity in his entire history on earth )
> then their model is programmed to show enviromental disaster
> Sim Earth is wrong the same way one volcano shows that the
> evirowackos are total bilthering idiots.
> Mars only needs a little warmth and it could kick start
> it would warm easilly for the same reason earth is warming
> resistant,, No plants on mars !!!
> On earth ... a volcano can belch an amount of CO/2 that makes
> all the oil burned on earth at one time insignificant, and the only
> thing that happens is faster plant growth and in 2 years several
> mankind history of total possible oil burnings worth of CO2 is
> gone and the envirowacko climate catastrophe left to be nothing
> but their usual hairbrained nonreasoned nattering nabob effuent.
> On mars however, No plants, and lots of CO/2 frozen at the poles
> and if you warm it up a bit and gassify the dri ice, the resulting
> greenhouse effect can do the rest..
> the next problem would be controling plant growth so that it didnt
> suck out all the CO/2 before you could populate it with lots of us
> nasty humans burning oil to feed the plants to keep it out of
> slipping back to its ice age,
> On earth our food production has grown along with our CO/2
> supply, im quite convinced if it was not for mans activity
> the earth would have gone back into its ice cube period.
> The plants suck up CO/2 like a sponge as the penetubo
> emissions show us ... a whole human historys worth of gas
> many times over is sucked up like it was nothing,
> The ice caps are already melting on mars btw, the REAL factor
> for climate change, the sun is gasifying the mars poles a bit the
> past couple years ( the sun is having a double peak sunspot
> cycle ) its too bad leftodumbo envirowacko PC religion
> that they pass off as science these days is too busy with
> their leftist delusion, away from emotion, and wishfull thinking,
> out here in the realm of reality and facts, there is some interesting
> things happening.
> Too bad they are too deep in their dogma to take notice.
> > > When the social enginners are no longer putting the jackboots
> > > of goverment on the necks of the acheavers in the name of
> > > "social justice" and the envirowackos stand fully discredited
> > > by the emissions data from the volcano Penetubo, perhaps then
> > > we can get along back to the accent of man.
> >
> > Darn where is BABLE fish when you need one!
> Read it again, or wait 30 years when you are wiser, then read it again.
> Raymond
Received on Tue Apr 23 2002 - 10:59:21 BST

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