For the record...

From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf_at_siconic.com>
Date: Wed Apr 16 10:17:00 2003

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Al Hartman wrote:

> I posted these messages because I want it to stop.
>
> I want him to stop doing this, rather than having it
> tolerated.
>
> You say you know about it. How about doing something
> about it, rather than letting others be attacked and
> harrassed by him?
>
> Because, I'm not willing to just ignore him and allow
> him to attack others on the list in the future.

This is silly. Please stop trying to make it seem that because I have
singled you out for your narrow and simple mind that this is a regular
practice of mine. You've referenced "scores of other people" who have
contacted you about my nasty behavior. Scores! Wow, that is a lot. I
must have pissed off the equivalent of a small community. Where is your
proof? Everytime I ask this of people who employ the very tactics you
are now doing to attack my character, I get no response. None.
Whatsoever.

The reality is that there are few people I have sparred with in private
mail, and even fewer that have then taken those messages back to the list
in an attempt to gain sympathy for their cause. You share company with
Bruce Lane and "John Galt". Congratulations. You should be really proud
to be a member of this Axis of Weasles.

As has been pointed out, this is a serious breach of netiquette. Not to
mention revealing of a serious character flaw. However, that is yours to
deal with, not mine nor the list's. Are you incapable of understanding
that no one is interested in any of your private crusades, let alone mine?

As those who have spoken with me in private e-mail and have met me in
person, I don't think you'll find many who have anything but a liking and
respect for me. Even those whom I've sparred with publicly, once we move
the discussion to private and bear it out, we end up coming away with an
understanding and mutual respect. The difference between those pepple and
you is, quite frankly, the level of intelligence and maturity at hand.

> If he does not receive strong admonishment and
> feedback that his behaviour is unacceptable (and just
> letting him go on and do it unchallenged tells him
> it's ok....), why would he ever stop?

Will you ever stop? You've been asked by several list members to take
your little crusade elsewhere, yet you persist. I've tried to take a
personal exchange off the list but you brought it right back on again.
Are you even capable of being aware of how immature and selfish that kind
of behavior is? Aren't you the one that needs behavior modification?

> In return for that, he needs to control himself and
> treat members of this list with the respect he himself
> receives.

The respect returned is the respect I get. Do not attack me without
justification, and you'll be fine. Everyone who truly knows me, knows
this. I have nothing but friends here. Anyone who would consider me
their "enemy" is irrelevant, because as far as I'm concerned, I don't have
any. If you want to make me your enemy or adversary then that's really
your problem.

> I simply sent copies of Sellam's Email and a complaint
> to "Postmaster_at_hisdomain". For all I know, that is he
> himself, and he got the complaint and is snickering
> about it...

heheheheh.

> So, posting to this list was an attempt to get others
> to cooperate in stopping his hate, without resorting
> to the "LEA" (What is that?) or another Govermental
> Agency.

Maybe you can start a Coalition of the Willing and have me removed from
power? If so, then bring it on. The streets will flow with the blood of
the infidels! This will be the Mother of All Battles!!

Al, really, seek help.

If you really have a problem with me, take this back to private e-mail and
we'll discuss it. If you won't do that, I'll have nothing to do with you.

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Sellam Ismail                                        Vintage Computer Festival
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