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From: Fred Cisin <>
Date: Sun Aug 10 13:53:00 2003

On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 wrote:
> You mean the part where IBM has been unfairly accused of stifling
> creativity?

I did NOT say anything about that! (although some could argue
that IBM's use of patents as a competitive tactic (brass roller,
shape of punch card hole, etc.) might qualify)
IBM has done enormous amounts of brilliant and creative work in
engineering. -- "a MYRIAD of great inventions" :-)

Instead, I was objecting solely to their false
statements that they had NEVER had a dress code.
Even their necktie rule was not relaxed for CE's until
a few HORRIBLE incidents proved that it was a safety issue.

If they had shown their "1997" picture with a stement saying,
"We NO LONGER have a dress code", then it might be true.

OB_OT: Is there anybody here from DRI 23 years ago, who can
confirm or deny (FIRST PERSON) that when the IBM contingent
showed up at the door of Digital Research, there was some
fear (based on apparel) that it was a drug raid?

Grumpy Ol' Fred
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Fred Cisin wrote:
> > > > Go through "The Way We Wore", where they insist that the IBM clothing has
> > > > NEVER been "uniform", and count (except for the last CONTRIVED and POSED
> > > > shot in 1997) how many men you see who are NOT wearing a white shirt,
> > > > necktie, and suit.  IBM has ALWAYS been well known for their suppression
> > > > of individuality, and their racial and cultural tokenism.
> > > > Ah, yes.  IBM.   where they "value diversity"
> >
> > On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, William Donzelli wrote:
> > > Jeez, what happened? Did IBM run over your dog or something?
> >
> >
> > Have you been off planet for the last half century??
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