Early,Nixdorf personal computer

From: Fred N. van Kempen <waltje_at_pdp11.nl>
Date: Fri Jul 11 05:07:00 2003

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Philip Pemberton wrote:

> > "classic" and they have no clue what to do with it. These are the kids
> > that are being turned out by the MS certification mills.
Hmm.

Also, dont underestimate current IT colleges. I am feeling more and
more apalled at what they get taught there. JAVA is Programming,
WinXP is "OS Design" (sometimes they divert to MacOS 9, it seems)
and The PeeCee is Hardware Design & Engineering.

I recently slapped one of those "teachers" in the face with an LK201
(yes, it still works - the keyboard, that is) and threatened to take
his place for a few months, and teach them REAL technology instead.

Guess what? The dork NEVER had done any real programming, never had
any serious exposure to OS design, and never even came CLOSE to a
piece of open-guts hardware.....

*SCARED MODE*

> "This is our UNIX fileserver. It's running ..."
> "Hey! You can't use UNIX systems on a Windows network! It'll break
> everything!"
> "Actually, it works perfectly. As I was saying, it's running SAMBA so we can
> use it as a fileserver..."
> "But it'll break everything!"
> "Excuse me, I'm a fully qualified IT engineer with [n] years experience.
> You're a newly-hired MCSE. Do you know anything about UNIX?"
> "Uh, no, but.."
> "Well, here's a set of UNIX books. Have a quick look through them (especially
> the 'Ultimate SAMBA Reference') and tell me why 1,000 Windows 2000 systems
> won't coexist with our $10,000 UNIX server."
> "Uh....."
>
> Microsoft: Spreading misinformation about our competitors since the late
> 1970s.
I have been a fully certified MCSE, MCSD and MCSA since 1996. We were
never taught that UNIX will bite NT systems or networks, just that it
can be awkward to make them talk and/or work together. Which still holds
true, although its getting better, thanks to efforts on both sides.

And yes, I know "a bit" about UNIX and networking, too.

This poor girl (only way I can describe her..) had bad teachers from a
probably clueless school/training organization. See my note above on
THOSE...

The girl can still be rescued, and you did well: expose her to that
"scary" (UNIX) stuff, and she'll learn and understand. And forget the
crap her (bad) teachers forced her down the, uhh, ok, throat.

Cheers,
        Fred
Received on Fri Jul 11 2003 - 05:07:00 BST